Fred Manalli

I'm working on a comp for the dripping pen letter but I wanted to post this as I've spotted it. I'll ad the full comp for this card once it's done.

This shows what I'll call the half W. I've seen this mentioned as a spelling error on occasion but it's not, it's just an incomplete w. And good old Fred has one too.

traveller1st wrote:

I'm working on a comp for the dripping pen letter but I wanted to post this as I've spotted it. I'll ad the full comp for this card once it's done.

This shows what I'll call the half W. I've seen this mentioned as a spelling error on occasion but it's not, it's just an incomplete w. And good old Fred has one too.

That is impressive Trav. And if you stand Zodiac's half W straight up, it is very close to a match

Manalli using one of Zodiac's favorite words, SHALL

morf13 wrote:

Some of his typed words....are these jokes???





"Have you read the last paragraph on the first page of the typed stuff?"

We are on the same page

Manalli definitely seemed to think he had some mental issues and was not afraid to mention them:

Now this is really interesting. In this 1962 letter to Author Dan Curley,Manalli's mentor(and man crush i think) ,Manalli asks Curley about a story of Curley's called "THE MANHUNT"... The first thing I thought of, is this story like THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME???


I tried to search for the words,text, or storyline for THE MANHUNT, but I could not find it. But then I came across this book published in 1968 called STUDIES IN THE SHORT STORY.

Studies in the short story,
New York, Holt, Rinehart and Winston [1968]
Book : Fiction : English : 3d ed
pt. 1. Basic elements of fiction -- Most dangerous game / Richard Connell ; And the rock cried out / Ray Bradbury ; The Manhunt / Daniel Curley ; The last day in the field / Caroline Gordon ; A Tree, a rock, a cloud / Carson McCullers -- pt. 2. Point of view -- The Horse Dealer's Daughter / D. H. Lawrence ; What we don't know hurts us / Mark Schorer ; Rain / W. Somerset Maugham ; The girls in their summer dresses / Irwin Shaw -- pt. 3. Honesty and dishonesty in fiction --De Mortuis / John Collier ; The Lottery / Shirley Jackson ; Necklace / Guy de Maupassant -- pt. 4. Symbol -- Girl / Meridel Le Sueur ; Portable phonograph / Walter Van Tilburg Clark ; Good country people / Flannery O'Connor ; Flowering Judas / Katherine Anne Porter -- Pt. 5. Humor, satire, and fantasy -- Catbird seat / James Thurber ; First Confession / Frank O'Connor ; Forks / J.F. Powers ; Other side of the hedge / E. M. Forster ; Adam and Eve and Pinch me ; A. E. Coppard -- pt. 6. Theme and variation -- Leader of the people / John Steinbeck ; That evening sun / William Faulkner ; Absolution / F.Scott Fitzgerald ; Short happy life of Francis Macomber / Ernest Hemingway -- pt. 7. More stories for study -- Tell-tale heart / Edgar Allen Poe ; My Kinsman, Major Molineux / Nathaniel Hawthorne ; Bartleby / Herman Melville ; Lament / Anton Chekhov ; Real Thing / Henry James; Herart of Darkness/ Joseph Conrad ; Open Boat / Stephen Crane; Gentleman from San Francisco / Ivan Bunin ; Little Cloud / James Joyce ; Petrified man / Eudora Welty ; Goodbye, my brother / John Cheever; Unspoiled reaction / Mary McCarthy ; Patented gate and the mean hamburger / Robert Penn Warren ; Who made yellow roses yellow? / John Updike ; Defender of the faith / Philip Roth

I have almost ZERO doubt that Manalli read this book. (if you knew the full extent of how Manalli was up Curley's ass you would understand what I mean).And if he read everything in the book, then he read about THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME

Is this a simple typo from manalli for the word CHRISTMAS?

You can actually see that he corrected it, and then still misspelled it.

wow.

Oh I'd say there's a good chance he read it alright. Not least because DC is in it but also every thing and everyone else he name dropped including, Faulkner, Katherine Anne Porter, Eudora Welty, and Heart of darkness is in it which Manalli lists as one of his favourites

traveller1st wrote:

wow.

Oh I'd say there's a good chance he read it alright. Not least because DC is in it but also every thing and everyone else he name dropped including, Faulkner, Katherine Anne Porter, Eudora Welty, and Heart of darkness is in it which Manalli lists as one of his favourites

Yeah that definitely jumped out at me too.

morf13 wrote:

Manalli using one of Zodiac's favorite words, SHALL

One more for the collection from Manalli-

Here, Manalli mentions writings from DANTE (Dantes Inferno). I know that Dante has been brought up before regarding Zodiac-

When was that written?

traveller1st wrote:

When was that written?

not sure

Ahhhhh don't even have to explain these anymore lol.

Zodiac & Manalli comparisons again-

morf13 wrote:

morf13 wrote:

Manalli using one of Zodiac's favorite words, SHALL

One more for the collection from Manalli-

and another couple-



Alot of people wondered if Z was of english heritage because of his use of the word 'shall'. Somebody,like Manalli, reading as much books & writings of so many english authors,would definitely be exposed to the word

Found a piece typed by Manalli...

"so that I an commit murder and be done with this shit; go down with hands on people's throats" written by him 12/12/69. I dont have access to a scanner now,so I will post it later tonight

WOW!

In a letter dated July 31...(think its 1970"

Manalli writes.....

"GOD SAVE ME- CATCH ME BEFORE I KILL MORE"

I had to a double take. Again,I will post that tonight unless Seagull cares to do it sooner.

morf13 wrote:

Here, Manalli mentions writings from DANTE (Dantes Inferno). I know that Dante has been brought up before regarding Zodiac-

Stanley Clitoris... (giggle)

morf13 wrote:

Is this a simple typo from manalli for the word CHRISTMAS?

You can actually see that he corrected it, and then still misspelled it.

Chris Y has a lengthy discussion of Zodiac portmanteaus on his board.

morf13 wrote:

WOW!

In a letter dated July 31...(think its 1970"

Manalli writes.....

"GOD SAVE ME- CATCH ME BEFORE I KILL MORE"

I had to a double take. Again,I will post that tonight unless Seagull cares to do it sooner.

Suffice it to say that my hair is sufficiently on end.

Seagull, I know you have reservations about posting all of this material, but is there some way you could set up a (non-downloadable) account so we can view more than a few snippets at a time?

thebigZ wrote:

morf13 wrote:

Here, Manalli mentions writings from DANTE (Dantes Inferno). I know that Dante has been brought up before regarding Zodiac-

Stanley Clitoris... (giggle)

Chortle hehehe.

thebigZ wrote:

morf13 wrote:

WOW!

In a letter dated July 31...(think its 1970"

Manalli writes.....

"GOD SAVE ME- CATCH ME BEFORE I KILL MORE"

I had to a double take. Again,I will post that tonight unless Seagull cares to do it sooner.

Suffice it to say that my hair is sufficiently on end.

Seagull, I know you have reservations about posting all of this material, but is there some way you could set up a (non-downloadable) account so we can view more than a few snippets at a time?

I just sent it to Trav. Hopefully he or Seagull can post just that segment of the writing without posting the entire thing

morf13 wrote:

WOW!

In a letter dated July 31...(think its 1970"

Manalli writes.....

"GOD SAVE ME- CATCH ME BEFORE I KILL MORE"

I had to a double take. Again,I will post that tonight unless Seagull cares to do it sooner.

Seriously, this guy's stuff. At every flipping turn there's something else. What's next? "Alternative lakeside Picnics: What to bring"

traveller1st wrote:

morf13 wrote:

WOW!

In a letter dated July 31...(think its 1970"

Manalli writes.....

"GOD SAVE ME- CATCH ME BEFORE I KILL MORE"

I had to a double take. Again,I will post that tonight unless Seagull cares to do it sooner.

Seriously, this guy's stuff. At every flipping turn there's something else. What's next? "Alternative lakeside Picnics: What to bring"

Is he referring to himself or is this a line from his (or any) book?