onewhoknows POI

This Thread is for onewhoknows POI postings. So all I can say to everyone is listen and see if
you can help her with her POI or to feel better if it's not her POI.

Much Thankz , Zam*

onewhoknows wrote:

What would you say about this guy's body type and hair color?
Is he thin, or beefy? What about the hair, is it straight to you
or curly? What about that hair color, is it reddish brown, dark brown
or light brown?

Well built, looks like he would need a pillow for a paunch.

The Harley is a '70s AMF model, so the photo would be of him after the Z hits...for anyone else curious.

Thanks, yes he would need a stuffing for a paunch. And yes, this is '74.
He is sitting on his Harley Davidson Super Glide on Rheem Ave., Richmond,CA.

So, anyone being the Zodiac Killer would have to have proximity to the crimes and murders which took place
in 1968 and 1969. The locations are within or near what is commonly known as the Bay Area of CA.
My suspect lived in a somewhat central location to all the crimes, had access to vehicles and was single
during these classic crimes. He lived in a small community known as El Sobrante in Contra Costa County.
Where he lived is central to all the Zodiac crimes, within a short drive's distance. As I
begin to add other suspected crimes, like Santa Rosa, Sacramento, Kathleen Johns, an interesting pattern
developes.

During the December of 1968 my POI would have been home on Christmas Vacation
from San Jose State, where he was studying Criminal Justice, and enrolled in ROTC.


He would move the summer of 1969 into what was known as the "Big Pink" with one of
his best friends. It is two doors up from his family home, and was owned by another
friend's parents. There were stories of legendary parties at the "Big Pink".

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This guy does NOT sound like a nice guy, but being a bad guy does not make him Zodiac. To keep this thread open and active, you are going to need to show more documentation of possible Zodiac activity. Did he have multiple guns? Did he write letters frequently to newspapers? Etc, Etc, maybe more side by side comparisons of his writing vs Zodiac's.

On the face of it, there's not much to go off of in terms of evidence for the killings at Lake Herman Road.
We have two teenagers shot, in the dark, parked, by someone who may have driven up in a car. There
are no fingerprints. There is no DNA. There are no eyewitness. The weapon used was a .22 caliber, but
Police reports indicate because of the way the barrel was treated, and because copper coated bullets were
used, it would be difficult, if not impossible to identify the murder weapon.
But from that wintery night in december, some things emerge. There are the two racoon hunters who
thought they saw a white, '59 or '60 Impala.

So what would prove this crime to anyone's satisfaction? Is it possible?

With regards to my POI I can connect these points

He was 19 yrs old at the time, and the victims were 16 and 17.
He owned a .22 caliber weapon, hand gun and rifle.
He was a 20 minute drive from home, but into another county.
He kept ammunition always same as kind used in murders, Winchester
Western.

onewhoknows wrote:

On the face of it, there's not much to go off of in terms of evidence for the killings at Lake Herman Road.
We have two teenagers shot, in the dark, parked, by someone who may have driven up in a car. There
are no fingerprints. There is no DNA. There are no eyewitness. The weapon used was a .22 caliber, but
Police reports indicate because of the way the barrel was treated, and because copper coated bullets were
used, it would be difficult, if not impossible to identify the murder weapon.
But from that wintery night in december, some things emerge. There are the two racoon hunters who
thought they saw a white, '59 or '60 Impala. This is 1968. And then there is the married couple who were out
checking the pipe lines that night in the dark. The wife says as they drove past the scene of the murder,
she sees a man, white, about 28 yrs of age, standing there, holding a long barrelled gun down but out at an angle.

So what would prove this crime to anyone's satisfaction? Is it possible?

With regards to my POI I can corrolate these points

He was 19 yrs old at the time, and the victims were 16 and 17.
He owned a .22 caliber pistol and a .22 rifle. See the picture below of
weapon like he had. I know where the guns are being kept.
He was a 20 minute drive from home, but into another county.
He kept ammunition always same as kind used in murders, Winchester
Western.
I witnessed him once brandish same gun in the manner the lady checking the
pipelines that night did. He was doing it to some people passing by the bank on
a boat. He held the long nosed gun out and pointing down, while he stared at
them as they passed. Very threatening.
He would have had access to his mother's Pont Gran Prix that night, but probably
also still had his own car, a bronze corvair. He was capable of hot wiring most cars
so that didn't really matter.
What LE told me is this, "even if we tested the ballistics on the weapons, and they
matched, how do we prove it was him shooting that gun on that night."

Can you find out the exact make & model of the handgun your SUSPECT used? YOu say it is being stored?

The Ruger .22 Single Six revolver does come in a version with 6 grooves right hand twist, a very common element that is consistent with the weapon used at SB 63 and LHR 68.

But I highly, highly doubt that this weapon was used by Zodiac.

The Ruger .22 Single Six is a SINGLE ACTION REVOLVER. Thus the hammer must be cocked each time the gun is fired. And it only holds six shoots. Given what we think happened at LHR, a single action weapon would not operate fast enough or accurate enough to do the type of shooting. And there were more thean six shots fired at LHR, so again, not very likely. Also, shells were recovered at the scene, which is consistent with a pistol that ejects shells.

Also, in regards to this suspect being 19 at the time, yes witness reports can be unreliable, but EVERY report of Zodiac's age puts him at 25 to 35, 35 to 45, 30, etc. NONE put him at 19, and this suspect looks young for his age. He is not a 19 year old who looks older, if anything he looks younger. I guess I wouldn't personally totally rule out a 19 year old suspect but it is very doubtful it could be him. I just don't see how a 19 year old would consistently generate reports of being 30 and 40. Theatrical make up? Maybe. Also, his age would rule him out for SB 63, which is OK, but also rule him out for Bates murder and letters, which were done by Zodiac IMO and based on the evidence. SO if he is too young for Bates in 1966, IMO he cannot be Zodiac. Others may disagree.

There are some disturbing elements about this POI making me wonder if he could be a killer. But I am not seeing a Zodiac connection yet. Would need to see some handwriting. Also, did he have knowledge or interest in codes? Opera? Letter writing? Norse?

So I would encourgae onewhoknows to post handwriting and more information.

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Blue Rock Springs is very similar to the killings at Lake Herman road. We have young lovers, who
are parked in the dark, shot by someone. But this time the young male victim survives, Mike Mageau
who is 19 yrs old. The young woman does not survive, she is 22 yrs old. The Police interview Mike,
but virtually end their report with, he "really did not get a good look at him, and it was dark out and hard
to see." Mike said the shooter was a white male, about 5'8" and real beefy, but not blubbery fat. He said
the killer appeared to be 26 to 30 years of age, but was unable to judge his age real well.
At 12:40 am that night, a male caller phoned in a disturbing confession, tauntingly saying "Good bye".
The murder weapon used was determined to be a .9mm automatic pistol. Mike Mageau felt that a silencer
must have been used, based on the muffled noise the shots made. The killer approached them that night with
a large flashlight held by a handle. Mike Mageau also said that the killer's car looked very similar to the one
they were in, but a little lighter, a brown corvair, with CA license plates.
He had changed jurisdictions from Solano Co to Vallejo PD.

My POI and points of correlation
He is now 20 years of age, once again similar to the age of the victims, 22 and 19.
He owned a copper/bronze colored corvair during this time. With CA license plates.
He owned a .9mm Luger see photo and a silencer which screwed in, with a roughish plastic casing.
The .9mm would have also been confiscated by Pinole PD in 1999, and should be in the possesion of said friend.
He speech was slow and deliberate, verbally adept, enunciates each word carefully, pointed, authoritarian.
His height was at 5'9" see above photo at the age of 25 on the motorcycle for body type and hair color reference.
He and his parents owned flashlights like the one described with the handles both in El Sobrante and at their place
at Lake Shasta.

Luger was Nazi officers weapon also used by Count Zaroff in Most Dangerous Game film Gun in picture is IMO not a Luger.

The photo is one I chose that looked similar to the gun I remember him having.
It had a clip that you shoved up into the handle and the top part slid back, when
you were ready to shoot. I am sorry, being female, I am not very good at guns, cars
and things that didn't generally hold a big interest for me at the time. Once again I feel
I know where all the guns can be located and informed LE as to such.

Zodiac now sends in three different letters to three different newspapers in the Bay Area.
Each one contains part of a cipher, which is later solved by a school teacher.
"I LIKE KILLING PEOPLE IT IS MORE FUN THAN KILLING WILD GAME IN THE FORREST.'
'ITS MORE FUN THAN GETTING YOUR ROCKS OFF WITH A GIRL."
He sends in details of the crime only the killer would know, he is terrorizing the entire
Bay Area now.

Points of correspondence to my Suspect.

He was already an experienced wild game hunter at this point in his life.
He spent summers up at Lake Shasta helping with hunting expeditions put on by the
Lodge he worked for. Very experienced with all types of weapons including knives, knowing
how to skin large game.

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Okay, a couple things. First off, Zodiac has never been confirmed to have written a cursive note or letter (at least which we have seen publicly). So for you to compare any of his cursive with that of suspects is a mistake. You MUST compare any of your suspects PRINTED writing against Zodiac's printed writing. I consulted multiple writing experts and all advised me that you can not match a sample of cursive writing to a sample of printed writing.

That being said, if you look at this link:
https://zodiackillersite.forummotion.com/t40-donna-lass-christmas-card
This is a copy of the xmas card mailed to the sister of possible Zodiac victim, Donna Lass. While it is not verified to be from Zodiac, I personally believe it IS FROM ZODIAC. If it is, it is the only public cursive sample from Zodiac. Compare that to your suspects cursive. I actually think the letter W on the $435 check written by your suspect matches quite closely to the letter W in the word WISHES on the xmas card. Of course, you will need more than one sample, and need more than one single letter of the alphabet to match.

Also, I think the word ADDRESS, as written by your POI, looks similar to the Zodiac's writing of the same word. But I have also seen words and letters of your POI that do not seem to match Zodiac's.

Yes Morf, I am hoping to have professional analysis of the handwriting samples
that I have, and I have more samples of writing than what you have seen.
And yes, ironically enough, all the samples of my suspect's
writitng I have are in cursive, while all the Zodiac Letters were in printing. The
letters I cut out from samles for the NO ADDRESS was actually from his cursive.
DOJ was given all the samples I have, which so far are a series of cancelled checks.
They asked me to find more handwriting samples, which I am having trouble doing.
He would have a draft card on file for Vietnam, but it looks like the public cannot
access those records. Any other ideas of recorded documents he may have filled out?
Until I can afford a professional forensic analysis, or draw enough attention to my
suspect, to get the samples examined without charge, that is where I am. Thanks.

Off track a little bit, in response to Morf, I'm still not sure, but these are the letter
comparisons from my suspect to the cursive writing on this Christmas Card sent to
Donna Lass' sister after her murder.

I just noticed the "&" symbol my suspect uses in the $435.00 check is the same
as the one Zodiac uses in the Bus Bomb Letter.

ONEWHOKNOWS, your suspect's writing does indeed look similar in some ways to the confirmed Z letter, and the cursive Lass xmas card possibly sent by Zodiac. But I am no writing expert, so you may want to contact a writing expert to do side by side comparisons.

By the way, did your suspect ever talk about the Zodiac case, or mention Zodiac by name?

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