Troy Houghton: The Minuteman

I spoke with Kenneth Patrick who drove TH to the station. He agrees with you that TH was setup. The problem with his story is that he said he picked up TH directly from court and drove him to the KC bus station. The court date was January 4th. In the letter TH said he spent the night after the court date and then left. hmmmm.

Anyhow, I'm going to be posting some court testimony that you will find very interesting. It appears that TH was connected to the CIA, and possibly the FBI. I've got to find the time to scan the documents and there are so many of them.

I just have to add this. WHY would TH flash some girls out of his "comfort zone"? It doesn't make sense.

He was basically pretty broke. Traveled on a bus from Kansas to Wyoming. Got a job to drive a car back to California. He was completely out of his comfort zone.

I don't see him doing this indecent exposure. Yeah maybe... if he had his own car..and knew he was getting the hell out of dodge right after...OR he was in his "comfort zone" where he knew the area well enough to feel "comfortable".

But by his own words...he thought he was being followed by 2 undercover agents on the bus and probably was. WHY would TH flash some girls in such a situation? HE simply would NOT do it.

Also...how many flashers actually go to a judges house to discuss his concerns...write a 4 page letter to the court and send proof of where he was and when? Something is wrong with the picture. IF the judge that he looked up and went to his house thought TH was a threat...TH would have been arrested for harassment or something. Just the fact he did that and followed up with letter and proof...I don't think this guy did this flashing. Not this time at least.

IMHO...as if anyone wants it...LOL!

rand wrote:

I spoke with Kenneth Patrick who drove TH to the station. He agrees with you that TH was setup. The problem with his story is that he said he picked up TH directly from court and drove him to the KC bus station. The court date was January 4th. In the letter TH said he spent the night after the court date and then left. hmmmm.

Anyhow, I'm going to be posting some court testimony that you will find very interesting. It appears that TH was connected to the CIA, and possibly the FBI. I've got to find the time to scan the documents and there are so many of them.

I KNEW IT>>>I JUST KNEW IT....can't wait to see this...I am so excited!!

Another thought I had...is the ATF because of the explosives the MM actually promoted as a tool for their cause. OR possibly even the Secret Service (after all he was somewhat in the circle of people investigated for Kennedy and MLK).

Not saying that TH was working for them...BUT...in my other studies one thing I keep seeing is that there is competition between the different agencies FBI, CIA, ATF and I assume the Secret Service...and sometimes one agency protects their source...even to the detriment of another agencies investigation.

Heck...that kind of stuff is STILL going on in our government and solving or not solving a particular crime sometimes isn't the smart political thing to do ...but we won't go there. Everyone is playing the cover your A$$ game.

Hey MS. I and everyone else values you opinions very much.

TESTIMONY AT HOUGHTON'S TRIAL BY CHRISTOPHER LAM AND SOMEONE NAMED MOORE
CIA AND FBI LINKS:

As per Rand's request...I have delted the thread about R.H.'s writing, and any possible link to Troy H & Zodiac. This was done because R.H. is alive and his uncensored photo, and name was splashed on this forum, along with accusations he was involved in Zodiac crimes. I asked Rand to edit his posts and photos, but he was unable to do so, and he asked me to just remove it, so I did. Anyone that wants to talk about him as a POI or suspects, can do so behind closed doors with RAND.

Since Troy H was apparently presumed dead, Rand is a bit more free to speak publicly about him.

I will be posting in the SITE NEWS/ANNOUNCEMENTS section about rules for posting names or images of POIs/Suspects

Tahoe deleted his name and edited the materials for me (thanks Tahoe ). So the Ray H. thread is now up and running again.

Any time Rand.

You have put a lot of work into providing some great information and some wonderful visuals. I am happy to help.

Rand - Notice anything about this possible Z letter?




THe Bleeding...

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"TH" ?

Of course, you can also go THE go down for the "O" and get THEO, and there is probably something in there for Tarrance, Gaikowski, Allen, etc.

But the TH is undeniable. Just thought you might find that interesting.

Wow! Nice catch, AK. I completely missed that.

As for the: "Of course, you can also go THE go down for the "O" and get THEO, and there is probably something in there for Tarrance, Gaikowski, Allen, etc."

Great eyes AK...I sure didn't notice that either. I was too busy wondering about what sort of paper or card stock or pen or felt to notice the obvious. It does make one wonder why the capital TH little e.

The handwriting on these two envelopes looks the same to me. This would indicate that Troy wrote the letter itself, which is printed. What do you think about the printed handwriting? Notice the random punched holes in the letter and the irregular paper too.

The cursive writing does look very close, but I'm not handwriting expert...the envelope to the Judge is a proven letter by Troy H right and not by his wife?

On the odd little piece of paper with the printed plea for help...what do you make of the fact the "a" in the word "drain" is completely different from the way he does all his other "a" s.

Wasn't there another example of this same message sent or is this the only one? This implies that this might be a mass mailing to members since he is asking each to send in a few dollars.

You did say that he had access to paper and card supplies and odd sized paper? It almost appears that the paper he used was a cut end of something. I know many years ago when I helped re-do all the manuals for our hospitals accreditation in the process we had tons of ends of paper from the printing that we then re-used by sending to the floors for the nurses to use for their pocket notes. Nothing got wasted. Could be scraps from a printers mistake. A large amount of them had holes in them due to our charting/notebook type formats for our documentation. I know it was a big surprise to me that such large amounts of off center printing could be done on paper by supposedly professional printers...but it happened and they cut things to make it straight.

Wow. I know there are some subtle differences, but at first glance, I thought that was some secret Zodiac letter nobody had previously heard of.

Sorry, no match.

-Nin

Don't recall seeing a hooked y from Z like in your sample or those rounded n's. But more than that, the handwriting in the example you provided has a certain "squareness" - don't know how to better describe it- and is much more organized than Zodiac's writings. A trick of mine is to horizontally flip the handwritings to compare. It kind of forces you look after allover similarities rather than picking individual characteristics. Works for me.

-Nin

I like that, Nin! Your eyes are truly looking at the physical characteristics of the writing then, and are less influenced by other things...

Nin wrote:

Don't recall seeing a hooked y from Z like in your sample or those rounded n's. But more than that, the handwriting in the example you provided has a certain "squareness" - don't know how to better describe it- and is much more organized than Zodiac's writings. A trick of mine is to horizontally flip the handwritings to compare. It kind of forces you look after allover similarities rather than picking individual characteristics. Works for me.

-Nin

Which has always been something that bugged me about the Halloween card. While they are not hooked, they are not like Zodiac's usual "y".

Zabagliona wrote:

I like that, Nin! Your eyes are truly looking at the physical characteristics of the writing then, and are less influenced by other things...

The letters really are the most unimportant points of comparison. Sounds weird, doesn't it. There are 200+ characteristics that can be determined from how a person writes.

-Nin

We don't know if Zodiac wrote "Editor" on that envelope (though I think he may have).

Some of it looks a little Zodiac like. The crosses on the "t" 's are low, like many by Zodiac.

The "d" 's are straight back, not cursive looped as most of Zodiac's are, and the "k" 's are two stroke.

The "T" and "h" are not joined, the "r" does not match.

No dice IMO. But I am not an expert.

You could get a handwriting expert, but if you do, you should tell him you want a comparison, and NOT tell him if you are seeking to have them match or hope he can be cleared. Or, send them in with samples of another one or two Zodiac suspects, and/or from your grandmother, and see what the expert says.

I find the randomly punched holes interesting. Does anyone else?

AK Wilks wrote:

The "T" and "h" are not joined; and the "r" does not match.

I don't believe that Z always joined his T and h's. And the r's looks right to me, but I'm not a handwriting expert.

I'd like to add a few links for folks to consider concerning handwriting changes of a specific person. Having had alot of experience with mental disorders within my own family and in my nursing practice I can say that handwriting and drawings can frequently change with a persons mental state. So while it is easy for us to say that one handwriting sample doesn't match exactly with another, we need to keep in mind that drugs, and mental state, as well as disease, can affect a persons handwriting.

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Many scientists believe that because handwriting is a result of brain impulses and your central nervous system, changes in how you write can be analyzed for how psychologically or physiologically stable the writer is. The basic assumption is that potential bad health will manifest in your handwriting before they appear as symptoms in your body.

Evidence of Multiple Personality Disorder in Handwriting

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Changes in handwriting and drawing

These are among the most interesting changes that can be associated with an allergy or sensitivity. A person who usually writes or draws neatly or well may, after exposure, draws in a dramatically different manner, or exhibit handwriting that is obviously too large or too small. In comparison to a person’s standard style, handwriting can be upside down, extremely sloppy or erratic, or even appear as a mirror image.

Changes like these suggest that a specific area of the brain has been affected by exposure to a problematic substance. Handwriting changes can be very helpful and important clues, suggesting that you have an allergy or sensitivity, and are responding to some exposure in your environment or something you’ve consumed.

Am J Psychiatry 154:1703-1710, December 1997 © 1997 American Psychiatric Association


http://www.schizophreniahistory.com/schizophrenic-handwriting.html

yes. and for whatever reason, Z's handwriting was all over the place.