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It appears that this guy was in prison in 1973 based on some of these files. Question is, was he in prison for the original incident all along, or did he get out and go back in? Interesting timing considering Zodiac's letter writing lapse until January 74. As far as I can see,none of these documents mentions an actual sentence either. I was only told verbally that his sentenced was reduced to a lesser crime and not attempted murder, and also only verbally about the fact he had some addl time for threats against a judge.

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Seagull wrote:
Morf I think Vacaville had the only prison medical facility in the state at that time. They had psychiatric care there and they did experimental stuff there, too. That might have been the reason for him being sent to Vacaville.

Atascadero State Hospital was opened and a lot closer, I also wonder why Vacaville ?

I was told once that Kathleen Johns worked at Atascadero. I believe that is where Art Allen was sent to ?
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Atascadero and Napa State Hospitals are mental hospitals. Vacaville is a prison. If the guy was not judged insane at his trial he would have gone to prison, not a hospital.

Back when ALA was sent to Atascadero pedophiles were thought to be mentally ill and they were sent to mental hospitals.
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Weird, both reports mention Baalke shooting with a 22 rifle,but the actual court document mentions a pistol
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morf13 wrote:
Weird, both reports mention Baalke shooting with a 22 rifle,but the actual court document mentions a pistol

Where does it say rifle?

-Nin
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Nin wrote:
morf13 wrote:
Weird, both reports mention Baalke shooting with a 22 rifle,but the actual court document mentions a pistol

Where does it say rifle?

-Nin

In the news article (mentions a double barrel)
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The articles mention a double barreled derringer. I thought derringers were pistols.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP NEEDED with gathering info on a possible Z suspect   HELP NEEDED with gathering info on a possible Z suspect - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 31, 2012 8:28 am

Seagull wrote:
The articles mention a double barreled derringer. I thought derringers were pistols.

You're right tongue

I guess I assumed that when you read the term 'sniper', you assume they have a rifle. I looked it up, and I dont think Derringer made rifles,only handguns and small shotguns.
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morf13 wrote:
Seagull wrote:
The articles mention a double barreled derringer. I thought derringers were pistols.

You're right tongue

I guess I assumed that when you read the term 'sniper', you assume they have a rifle. I looked it up, and I dont think Derringer made rifles,only handguns and small shotguns.

I understand too it's that itsy bitsy Derringer pistol he used for his "sniper" attacks. It almost humored me, aside from the fact that he did hurt someone.

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