Deborah Gay Furlong and Kathy Snoozy

Check out Frank Valentine. He was a murderer who was released from Deer Lodge in 1969 and moved to California. Had family ties to Vallejo/Napa.

Quagmire wrote:

Check out Frank Valentine. He was a murderer who was released from Deer Lodge in 1969 and moved to California. Had family ties to Vallejo/Napa.

Z called in Dec 1968, October 1969, inbetween sent various letters...if he didn't sent them from prison he even might be ruled out cause of that.

Furthermore don't forget about the Deer Lodge / Feathers Lodge discussion recently...

QT

The reason why I was asking about Francis is because I generated that name running zk decrypto… where the text was generated and what it said peeked my interest, it could be just a coincidence…

A couple of things that stand out with Francis Warner are he was young and brilliant regarding physics and mathematics. What really stands out with me is that he claims to not remember the murders and also claimed to have blacked out…this concerns me because of all the Mk ultra experiments going on around that time…this would explain the accomplice theory and involvement in some but not all of the murders…

I don’t want to go down the Francis road at this time because I got a good bead on the Z mystery and I want to focus on the main players involved.

Don’t quote me on this but a young Conan Doyle wrote in one of his early books.

Sherlock Holmes to Watson, “a child has done this ghastly murder”…..

Daniel

Daniel Gillotti wrote:

WHY IS THIS GUYS B DAY SUCH A MYSTERY. CAN SOME ONE HELP ME OUT WITH THIS…

ALSO, DOES ANY ONE HERE KNOW OF ANY OTHER POSSIBLE NAMES LIKE “FRANCIS” THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO THE Z CASE OTHER THAN WARNER ?

FRANC, FRANK, FRANCE, FRED, FREDRICK…ANY IDEAS WELCOME…

What I found as far as a birth day for Karl Werner is he was born in 1950. I don't have access to Ancestry anymore . So anyone who has it can find his exact B.D. that way.

I have a z suspect who was living in San Jose , so this has peeked my interest.
If this were a Z crime and Z lived in San Jose at that time, I doubt he would want to claim it.

The only person who I knew named Francis that had any connection to the z case was Francis Hernandez who worked at the Coronado Inn in 1969. That was where Darlene like to hang out.