Mazzy's POI

MAZZY wrote:

thebigZ wrote:

MAZZY wrote:

I emailed a copy to Campbell PD forensics.

Did you ever get a response regarding that pic of the girl that was tied up? I'd like to believe that it was "staged", but it still gives me the creeps.

I did get a response from Humbolt PD, and they said they are opening a formal investigation. I don't think the picture is staged because if you zoom in on her left hand
above her ring finger it is scraped.

Awesome. Your POI may or may not be Z, but seems like LE needs to take a good look at him anyway.

I tried to sharpen this pic up a little. You may be right... could be an abrasion on her finger. Could be her hair. Not positive. I don't mean to jack this thread, but a friend of mine went missing many years ago and was never found. There are some things you can't let go of and I find this truly disturbing.

Due to the high quality of the pic I would say it was just some staged image from a bondage porn video (not that I'm any expert in this area I hasten to add!). However it certainly wouldn't hurt for LE to check it out.

She looks awfully young for porn, though.

To me it seems like the girls (blured) fingers are blue from beeing tied very tight , so either way, IMO the girl was tied up for real, very disturbing IMO.

Was this photo found on Mazzy´s POI floppydisc ?

Quagmire wrote:

Due to the high quality of the pic I would say it was just some staged image from a bondage porn video (not that I'm any expert in this area I hasten to add!). However it certainly wouldn't hurt for LE to check it out.

That is what I thought at first. Then I even thought about horror movies like HOSTEL or TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE in which girls were bound or tied. The photo is too neat in my opinion, too clean. I personally feel it is staged.

MAZZY wrote:

Missing Oct 31, 1995 Sylvia Ann Lee from Campbell


http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1154790&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US



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[b]I think this might be the same girl

The missing girl in your link, Sylvia Ann Lee, 17 years old at the time she disappeared (Halloween Oct 31, 1995) had a tattoo on her left hand. Now that is the hand that was blured in the picture !!!
Also Sylvias eyes is hazel, and it seems like the girl in the photo also has hazel eyes.
She disappeared from Campbell, Ca which is ca 25 miles north of Santa Cruz were Mazzy´s POI live.

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=5170223800397

Sylvia Ann Lee

Report Type: Suspicious Circumstances

Sex: Female

Race: White

Hair: Blonde

Eye Color: Hazel

Height: 5 ft. 00 in.

Weight: 125 lbs.

Date of Birth: 3/26/1978

Clothing: Black pants and sweatshirt.

Last Seen: 10/31/1995

Scars/Marks/Tattoos: Tattoo of the word Shorty on her left hand.

Dental X-rays Available: Yes

Sylvia was last seen on October 31, 1995, in Campbell, CA

Left: SYLVIA ANN LEE
Right: unknown girl, photo found on Mazzy´s POI´s floppydisk

IMHO:

same chin
same lips
same eyebrows
same hair
same eyecolor (shape of eyes is imossible to compare)

Too eerily similar IMO.

Theforeigner wrote:

Left: SYLVIA ANN LEE
Right: unknown girl, photo found on Mazzy´s POI´s floppydisk

IMHO:

same chin
same lips
same eyebrows
same hair
same eyecolor (shape of eyes is imossible to compare)

Foreigner...that is really good. Did you read that the photo of the girl is 100% Sylvia Ann Lee? She looks like her. Foreigner & Mazzy, if you TRULY believe the girl in the photo is LEE, you NEED TO IMMEDIATELY relay that to police.

Too bad Bentley isnt here, he could blow up or enhance that tattoo really well I bet.

This girl is also missing from teh same area of CA I believe, also vanished in 1995-

Kimberly Lynn Lilly


Above: Lilly, circa 1995


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: January 1, 1995 from the Santa Cruz, California
Classification: Missing
Date Of Birth: January 27, 1958
Age: 36 years old
Height and Weight: 5'7, 125 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, green eyes. Lilly may use the last name Silva or the alias Kimberly Rosemary Czar.


Details of Disappearance

Lilly was last seen in Santa Cruz, California on January 1, 1995. She has never been heard from again. Few details are available in her case.


Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Department
831-454-2242

morf13 wrote:

Theforeigner wrote:

Left: SYLVIA ANN LEE
Right: unknown girl, photo found on Mazzy´s POI´s floppydisk

IMHO:

same chin
same lips
same eyebrows
same hair
same eyecolor (shape of eyes is imossible to compare)

Foreigner...that is really good. Did you read that the photo of the girl is 100% Sylvia Ann Lee? She looks like her. Foreigner & Mazzy, if you TRULY believe the girl in the photo is LEE, you NEED TO IMMEDIATELY relay that to police.

Yes, as I wrote above the pictures I posted:

The girl in the LEFT photo is 100% sure SYLVIA ANN LEE.
And the girl in the RIGHT photo is the girl that, according to Mazzy, was on a floppy disc belonging to Mazzy´s POI.

Now I´m located in Denmark/Europe so I belive it should be somone in the California area that should send it to the police in Santa Cruz. I belive Mazzy is already in contact with the SCPD, GREAT JOB Mazzy ! So I suggest that Mazzy just copy my post and send it to the Santa Cruz Police Department attention the guy she alread have contact with.

BY THE WAY!!!: remeber to add the info that SYLVIA ANN LEE had :

Scars/Marks/Tattoos: Tattoo of the word Shorty on her left hand.

AND

That the unknown tied up girls hand seems to have been blured, possibly to disquize that she have a tattoo on HER left hand

MAZZY wrote:

thebigZ wrote:

MAZZY wrote:

I emailed a copy to Campbell PD forensics.

Did you ever get a response regarding that pic of the girl that was tied up? I'd like to believe that it was "staged", but it still gives me the creeps.

I did get a response from Humbolt PD, and they said they are opening a formal investigation. I don't think the picture is staged because if you zoom in on her left hand
above her ring finger it is scraped.

Just reposting this so everyone knows that Mazzy already stated that she contacted LE.

Theforeigner wrote:

morf13 wrote:

Theforeigner wrote:

Left: SYLVIA ANN LEE
Right: unknown girl, photo found on Mazzy´s POI´s floppydisk

IMHO:

same chin
same lips
same eyebrows
same hair
same eyecolor (shape of eyes is imossible to compare)

Foreigner...that is really good. Did you read that the photo of the girl is 100% Sylvia Ann Lee? She looks like her. Foreigner & Mazzy, if you TRULY believe the girl in the photo is LEE, you NEED TO IMMEDIATELY relay that to police.

Yes, as I wrote above the pictures I posted:

The girl in the LEFT photo is 100% sure SYLVIA ANN LEE.
And the girl in the RIGHT photo is the girl that, according to Mazzy, was on a floppy disc belonging to Mazzy´s POI.

Now I´m located in Denmark/Europe so I belive it should be somone in the California area that should send it to the police in Santa Cruz. I belive Mazzy is already in contact with the SCPD, GREAT JOB Mazzy ! So I suggest that Mazzy just copy my post and send it to the Santa Cruz Police Department attention the guy she alread have contact with.

BY THE WAY!!!: remeber to add the info that SYLVIA ANN LEE had :

Scars/Marks/Tattoos: Tattoo of the word Shorty on her left hand.

AND

That the unknown tied up girls hand seems to have been blured, possibly to disquize that she have a tattoo on HER left hand

I agree with everything you say on the 2 pics..... IMO it is the same girl, the nose, nostrils, chin and hairline. I sent the info to Campbell PD. They still havent got back to me. Does anyone have any ideas on being able to see the tattoo on her hand?

morf13 wrote:

This girl is also missing from teh same area of CA I believe, also vanished in 1995-

Kimberly Lynn Lilly


Above: Lilly, circa 1995


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: January 1, 1995 from the Santa Cruz, California
Classification: Missing
Date Of Birth: January 27, 1958
Age: 36 years old
Height and Weight: 5'7, 125 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, green eyes. Lilly may use the last name Silva or the alias Kimberly Rosemary Czar.


Details of Disappearance

Lilly was last seen in Santa Cruz, California on January 1, 1995. She has never been heard from again. Few details are available in her case.


Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Department
831-454-2242

Morf there was also a picture of a girl on the the same floppy disc that IMO looks exactly like Kimberly Lynn Lilly. The problem is I cant find that picture on my laptop.
I think I might have mentioned this previously

Quagmire wrote:

Due to the high quality of the pic I would say it was just some staged image from a bondage porn video (not that I'm any expert in this area I hasten to add!). However it certainly wouldn't hurt for LE to check it out.

I disagree I have searched images on the internet and could not find a similar photo. IMO in a staged photo the girl would have both socks on

Assuming it's the same girl, I don't believe the tattoo is visible in this pic. The "scrape" on the hand looks more like a blurry lock of hair to me... very hard to tell. I think the only way to verify anything would be for police to contact relatives. Have you forwarded the pic to LE already?

-A

thebigZ wrote:

Assuming it's the same girl, I don't believe the tattoo is visible in this pic. The "scrape" on the hand looks more like a blurry lock of hair to me... very hard to tell. I think the only way to verify anything would be for police to contact relatives. Have you forwarded the pic to LE already?

-A

I have forwarded this photo along with Sylvia Ann Lees to the agency on DOJ and I got a phone call from Agent Rogers. Within 5 minutes of receiving the picture he called and said thats not Sylvia he said recently someone came forward and admitted to killing her. After I got of the phone with him and thought about it I called back and asked where they found her body, or bones cuz its been 16 years. I asked him why it hasnt been on local news, and I asked why she is still list as missing? I also asked if the guy is in prison. I am having a hard time believing 16 years later all of a sudden someone admitts to killing her. Agent Rogers was rude as well. I still think its her, I need to get that blurred tattoo cleared up on her hand

thebigZ wrote:

I tried to sharpen this pic up a little. You may be right... could be an abrasion on her finger. Could be her hair. Not positive. I don't mean to jack this thread, but a friend of mine went missing many years ago and was never found. There are some things you can't let go of and I find this truly disturbing.

There are several things about this photo which suggest it is staged.

1. The rope is wound around the feet is neatly arranged and there is no visible knot
2. The girl's hair is evenly parted and clean
3. The gag is very lose and appears to be too thin to be functional and it looks like she is holding it in place with her mouth
4. Although the photographer is right in the girl's face, she is looking up and to the side as if another person is standing in that area
5. Signs of struggle or injury to the body are absent; aside from a missing sock and possible finger abrasion, her body does not display evidence of a struggle one would expect to see
6. The rope around the visible hand is too low and not tightly secured around the wrist; it appears as if her has is about to slide out
7. Her clothing looks too clean to have gone through an abduction and being on the floor
8. Look closely at the rope around her feet. Notice how there is a space between her legs. This is a trick used by magicians to make bindings appear tight so they can easily slip out of them. The sock would make this even easier to escape.
9. Her elbow is bent, but it should be secured tightly to the feet by a rope that is not visible in the picture
10. The blood flow to her hands and feet does not appear to be hindered. The hands and feet should be a darker color due to the circulation being cut off by the ropes.

Now, I don't mean that your POI should be dismissed or anything based on my opinion. In fact, it is disturbing that he is interested in images like this. The girl in the photo needs to be identified by authorities either way. This image would be incredibly damning if the girl is in fact a missing person. I doubt he would have images like this not secured away from others because she could easily be identified by it.

Mazzy, how did you discover the floppy disk? Was it in a locked box, hidden in a secret compartment, or out in the open?

Dice wrote:

thebigZ wrote:

I tried to sharpen this pic up a little. You may be right... could be an abrasion on her finger. Could be her hair. Not positive. I don't mean to jack this thread, but a friend of mine went missing many years ago and was never found. There are some things you can't let go of and I find this truly disturbing.

There are several things about this photo which suggest it is staged.

1. The rope is wound around the feet is neatly arranged and there is no visible knot
2. The girl's hair is evenly parted and clean
3. The gag is very lose and appears to be too thin to be functional and it looks like she is holding it in place with her mouth
4. Although the photographer is right in the girl's face, she is looking up and to the side as if another person is standing in that area
5. Signs of struggle or injury to the body are absent; aside from a missing sock and possible finger abrasion, her body does not display evidence of a struggle one would expect to see
6. The rope around the visible hand is too low and not tightly secured around the wrist; it appears as if her has is about to slide out
7. Her clothing looks too clean to have gone through an abduction and being on the floor
8. Look closely at the rope around her feet. Notice how there is a space between her legs. This is a trick used by magicians to make bindings appear tight so they can easily slip out of them. The sock would make this even easier to escape.
9. Her elbow is bent, but it should be secured tightly to the feet by a rope that is not visible in the picture
10. The blood flow to her hands and feet does not appear to be hindered. The hands and feet should be a darker color due to the circulation being cut off by the ropes.

Now, I don't mean that your POI should be dismissed or anything based on my opinion. In fact, it is disturbing that he is interested in images like this. The girl in the photo needs to be identified by authorities either way. This image would be incredibly damning if the girl is in fact a missing person. I doubt he would have images like this not secured away from others because she could easily be identified by it.

Mazzy, how did you discover the floppy disk? Was it in a locked box, hidden in a secret compartment, or out in the open?

The photo was saved on a floppy disk in a box in his storage locker.

Mazzy, did you say he had a picture of another girl too? Is it possible to post that here?

Q, I think the image you are talking about is almost certainly not staged. That one probably should not be posted here (if I am thinking of the correct image).

Dice wrote:

Q, I think the image you are talking about is almost certainly not staged. That one probably should not be posted here (if I am thinking of the correct image).

Yes, please DO NOT post that here!!!

Mazzy - Sorry if I've missed this already but what did LE say about the other image?