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PostSubject: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptyWed Nov 21, 2012 3:31 pm

Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle were parked on a lovers lane in MT( 2 hours from Deer Lodge), in the Great Falls area,in 1956. They were attacked and both shot. Rape & robbery was ruled out. I thought i had previously posted about this but cant find my posts. Will try to put articles up.


EDIT: Just also read that the male victim's hands were tied behind his back(wonder of the killer forced the female to tie him up?)
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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptyThu Nov 22, 2012 9:52 pm

Edward Wayne Edwards was questioned about this crime. Anybody else have more details on this case?
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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptyFri Nov 23, 2012 7:24 am

morf13 wrote:
Edward Wayne Edwards was questioned about this crime. Anybody else have more details on this case?

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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptyFri Nov 23, 2012 8:02 am

I really think there needs to be more investigation on Edwards. I'm not buying Bujok as Z, however Edwards and even Valentine are super interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptyFri Nov 23, 2012 8:03 am

Quicktrader wrote:
morf13 wrote:
Edward Wayne Edwards was questioned about this crime. Anybody else have more details on this case?

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Thanks for this... I wish they listed his full name & age, instead of just Wendell W. Smith. I found a few guys by that name in Florida, none in MT, and a few in CA, including in Modesto & Alameda.


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Luke68 wrote:
I really think there needs to be more investigation on Edwards. I'm not buying Bujok as Z, however Edwards and even Valentine are super interesting.


I agree,but from the writing I have seen from those two guys,it doesnt seem to resemble Zodiac's very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 10:03 am

There seems to be an article about Kalitzke/Bolge available under

http://newspaperarchive.com/daily-globe/1956-01-05/page-13/

It's easy to register and receive multiple articles each day (especially if you delet your cookies when they want to urge you to pay..), however my internet connection is almost zero these days and I can't download it currently...would be glad if someone could post it.

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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 8:55 am

I am rethinking this and the details, and the 1956 killings of Kalitzke & Bogle in MT, very closely resemble the two victims in the June 1967 Alameda County attacks- https://zodiackillersite.forummotion.com/t169-june-8-1967-alameda-county-zodiac-victims

The couples are both parked on an isolated lovers lane, their attacker comes along the scene, quickly kills the male where he finds them, takes the female to a spot a few miles away, does not rape her,only to shoot her. No rape, no robbery, no motive. The M.O. is the same. I even wonder if the M.O. would have also been the same for Betty Lou Jensen if she didnt run off after Z shot Dave.

Try to get in the mind of a killer(s) like this, the rush or thrill he gets as he's driving with a girl in the car who is terrified after she just saw her boyfriend murdered.
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From the 1/5/56 Daily Globe

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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 9:43 am

This attack happened near Malmstrom AFB, the Domingos/Edwards case, near Vandenburg. The Bates case near March AFB. Certainly seem to be Air Force bases near alot of these crimes
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PostSubject: Re: Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana   Patricia Kalitzke & Lloyd Bogle 1956 in Montana EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 9:55 am

morf13 wrote:
This attack happened near Malmstrom AFB, the Domingos/Edwards case, near Vandenburg. The Bates case near March AFB. Certainly seem to be Air Force bases near alot of these crimes

Very early one..Mare Island close to Vallejo, too.
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