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PostSubject: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:47 pm

In going over my Mr. X research lately, I was drawn to what started as a comment posting on a Les Jones Saturday Morning web blog in respect to who " Mr. X" was. Don't worry Mike, et all, he DOES NOT get identified in the article/blog or comment section.

In the comment section, someone posting under the handle of "YELLOWBUS", makes a most interesting claim to being the Zodiac killer.

http://www.lesjones.com/posts/001555.shtml

Normally one would take this with a grain of salt but several posters at the time thought that a more deep investigation of "Yellowbus" was warranted
largely in part to his claim to have been an AFPD MP at the Presidio on the night of Oct 11, 1969.

I feel safe in revealing what I have found here including his real name as HE is the one claiming/has claimed to be Zodiac, so I guess Libel is kinda off the table! LOL!

The limited research we did on this guy spooked us and was piqued by his twitter/facebook claims of being the Zodiac Killer again in 2010/2011.

His name is Michael David Brown ( 17 letters....yes....keep going!), was raised in SF and was a AFPD MP- 136th( The 7th) Squadron at Presidio in 1969.

He alternately claims to have also" found" a "satchel" containing a book of "codes" that represent the Zodiac Key and offer his identity and more under a bridge in Honolulu, where he now resides.

Normally, I would take these to be the claims of a mentally unstable street person, but his phraseology on-line was CLOSE and , really, what homeless person can post on-line alot, has twitter accounts, etc.

So I look into his background, having claimed a lot, and lo and behold, he WAS AFPD MP at Presidio in 1969.

He was also a full time cast member of The Lamplighters, a SF Community Theatre troupe, who still exist today in the Bay Area.

His credits for 1968-70 include playing Ko Ko; Lord High Executioner in the Lamplighters Production of The Mikado.

In fact, since the mid 60's he is one of the people who has portrayed Ko Ko (or played another role) and/or produced/Directed The Mikado THE MOST in community theatre on the mainland in the Bay Area and in Hawaii.

Would love Foreigner, Morf, Mike, Tahoe27, et all to look at this guy and see what we can find. It helps that he has alredy admitted being ZODIAC!.....should make our job that much easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:59 pm

How did this guy slip through the "Mikado Dragnet" that SFPD , etc, supposedly performed on all former actors having recently, and frequently, portrayed Ko Ko in the bay area from 1965-70???????????????????????
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:16 pm



Do you have a date of birth?

Here is somthing, you might already have this:

A Michael D Brown start a thread on Zodiackiller.com August 24, 2000

http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/gzd/39.html

By Michael D. Brown (205.149.107.164) on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 06:35 pm:
Any evidence the Zodiac could have been an Arc Welder?



The IP traced to Hawaii:



205.149.107.164 IP address location & more:
IP address [?]: 205.149.107.164 [Copy] [Whois] [Reverse IP]
IP country code: US
IP address country: United States
IP address state: Hawaii
IP address city: Kihei
IP postcode: 96753
IP address latitude: 20.6989
IP address longitude: -156.4430
ISP of this IP [?]: Maui High Performance Computing Center
Organization: Maui High Performance Computing Center
Local time in United States: 2011-08-06 17:01



If I shoul research this guy please give me all info you have on him.

You can PM me if you don´t want to post it.

I think I might have those codes he claimed to have found, at least I belive I saved somthing like that 4-5 years ago, I´ll go look in my files, may take a day or two.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:56 pm

Good to hear you chime in TF!!

I have next to nothing so any and all info would be welcome.

I believe he was born in 1949.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:48 am

The person who found a satchel with ciphers similar to the Zodiac’s had a MySpace account showing photos of the ciphers.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zoa96817/blog/2008/12/03/zodiac-killer-cryptography-found-in-hawaii

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zoa96817

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7143

I am not sure whether or not the person who found the ciphers is the same person as Michael David Brown.

I sent an email message to each of them. (You can find their email addresses on the internet.) However, I do not know if either of the email addresses is still in use.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:11 am

Ricardo wrote:
The person who found a satchel with ciphers similar to the Zodiac’s had a MySpace account showing photos of the ciphers.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zoa96817/blog/2008/12/03/zodiac-killer-cryptography-found-in-hawaii

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zoa96817

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7143

I am not sure whether or not the person who found the ciphers is the same person as Michael David Brown.

I sent an email message to each of them. (You can find their email addresses on the internet.) However, I do not know if either of the email addresses is still in use.


There is no doubt in my mind that the man who alleged placed those ciphers under a bridge in Hawaii was
Michael David Brown.

In the first link you provided he DO name the guy MDB, short for Michael David Brown!

Quote from first link:

From the material I found under the bridge I was able to speculate who the author (hereafter MDB) may have been socializing with in the 60's.
They all hung out in the San Francisco area. I was able to identify 4 individuals & sent them all letters & emails. I asked if they knew MDB.
Three replied with an affirmative.
One even stated the last he heard, MDB was in Hawaii.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:21 am


In this myspace profile, linked from your link nr 2, it says:

MDB 10/14/41

So that might be his Date of birth, however so far I not been abl to find any Michale Brown with that DOB .

http://www.myspace.com/zodiackiller96817
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:06 am

There somone who are members on zodiackiller.com connected to this MDB persona, if it is the guy who claim he found the ciphers OR it is MDB himself I dont know. OR could they in fact be the same person?
There are two profiles "Zoa" and "Emmett"

1. Zoa

His profile on ZK.com

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7143

His only post on ZK.com (it says 3 but only one pop up when searching all his posts) posted Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:56 pm

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=63663&highlight=#63663

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Post subject: Stines friend at Yellow Cab who asked him to cover

TomVoigt wrote:
However, a friend at Yellow cab asked Paul to cover his shift and the rest is history.

Zoa reply:
Might as well leave no stone unturned.

Who asked Stine to cover the shift?

Could be interesting to know who called in sick too.
Was it a guy named "Robert"?

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If the Zodiac killings were to happen in our present time they would catch him.
They didn't then because they didn't ask enough questions.
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2. Emmett

His profile at zk.com:

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104

His only post, posted Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:34 pm, Warren posted about the what the photocopied keys in the Eureka Christmas card might mean, Emmert reply: Try Loki
he also add the sentence that seem to appear in many of the links connected to this MDB issue.

http://zodiackiller.21.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=4999&highlight=#4999

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Post subject: Loki

Warren wrote:
And how much bigger, the snowman in disguise, is compared to the rabbit (SFPD) trying to seek his name. Maybe the keys mean his name is Keyes.

Emmett reply:
try Loki "
...a set to his deep dark gaze like I never saw on another earthly being."


FYI LOKI is " In Norse mythology, Loki is a god or jötunn (or both). " :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:42 am



The "Michael D Brown" posting on ZK.com in Aug 2000 had this email address michaeldbrown@hotmail.com (you get that email address pop up when klicking on his name in his posts ZK.com)


When googling that address it get you to posts on DIGGERS website !
And this Michael Brown is probably from Hawaii due to he salute with a Mahalo! which mean Tank you in Hawaii :


http://www.diggers.org/guestbook/guestbook_01.htm


Name: Michael Brown
E-mail Address: michaeldbrown@hotmail.com
Date: 08 Dec 2001


Comments
Anyone have stories to share about Aborigines you knew or heard about in the San Francisco area during the 60/70's? Photo's would be nice too! Mahalo!



Name: Michael Brown
E-mail Address: michaeldbrown@hotmail.com
Date: 11 Dec 2001


Comments
Also would anyone have knowledge of Aborigines involved in the Black Panthers? Any stories, pictures or names would be appreciated. Mahalo





And here in 2002 also on DIGGERS.

But here he is apparently looking for info on a man named Michael D Brown !!!

http://www.diggers.org/guestbook/guestbook_02_jan_jul.htm

Name: Michael Brown
E-mail Address: michaeldbrown@hotmail.com
Date: 07 Jan 2002


Comments
Aloha! I'm looking for information about someone of Aborigine descent (possibly from England) who may have been involved in the Communications Company, the Black Panthers or the Diggers. (or all three) Have you come across anything of this nature in your research? His name may have been Michael D. Brown. If this does not sound familiar, please remember my request in case you do come across something which fits this information.

Your reply would be appreciated.



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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:06 am

Any photos of this guy?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:26 pm

Theories on Loki caught my eye.

Theories

Loki's origins and role in Norse mythology have been much debated by scholars. In 1835, Jacob Grimm was first to produce a major theory about Loki, in which he advanced the notion of Loki as a "god of fire". In 1889, Sophus Bugge theorized Loki to be variant of Lucifer of Christian mythology, an element of Bugge's larger effort to find a basis of Christianity in Norse mythology. After World War II, four scholarly theories dominated. The first of the four theories is that of Folke Ström, who in 1956 concluded that Loki is a hypostasis of the god Odin. In 1959, Jan de Vries theorized that Loki is a typical example of a trickster figure. In 1961, by way of excluding all non-Scandinavian mythological parallels in her analysis, Anna Birgitta Rooth concluded that Loki was originally a spider. Anne Holtsmark, writing in 1962, concluded that no conclusion could be made about Loki.[57]

In her review of scholarly discourse involving Loki, Stefanie von Schnurbein comments that "Loki, the outsider in the Northern Germanic pantheon, confounds not only his fellow deities and chronicler Snorri Sturluson [referring to the Prose Edda] but has occasioned as much quarrel among his interpreters. Hardly a monography, article, or encyclopedic entry does not begin with the reference to Loki as a staggeringly complex, confusing, and ambivalent figure who has been the catalyst of countless unresolved scholarly controversies and has elicited more problems than solutions".[58]
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:29 pm

There was a Michael D. Brown listed in the 1970 SF directory. Of course, thats a common name, so no idea if it was him.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:36 pm

Check this out...

http://www.indy.com/photos/list/people/Zoa
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:39 pm

Luke68 wrote:
Check this out...

http://www.indy.com/photos/list/people/Zoa

Interesting Shocked

"Under a bridge I found over 300 pages of cryptography in a partially burnt satchel. The cryptography has several exact matches to the cryptography used by the Zodiac Killer. You can see samples here: http://www.myspace.com/zodiackil..."
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:46 pm

He also wrote this:

"GHUOORYHIIEEIYHIIXAHOJHOHAOOPHUHTHONHIYHIEEIHYHITHIIJHYHI"
paradice slaves


And he also posted this photo:

For a caption, he wrote "A sample of Zoa's cryptography"
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:52 pm

This was a post from him in an old 2001 Zodiac Killer.com message board:

MDB (Michael_D_Brown) (micro67.lib3.hawaii.edu - 128.171.57.67) on Friday, May 11, 2001 - 01:02 pm:
"My own private Zodiac has the 1st name of Michael.
He chose the name Zodiac from his distorted interpretation of the Urantia writings.
"...Urthona, also known as Zoa, meaning living creatures, from which we obtain our English word ZODIAC."
http://www.nccg.org/FAQ120-Urantia.html
"...and of these by far the most intriguing are the incarnational bestowals of the Paradise Sons."
http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper120.html
"The Bestowal of Michael on Urantia"
And yes, my suspect is STILL either Black or Aborigine...."

On the photo hosting site, he uses the name ZOA.


More in this link- http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/gzd/161.html
From what I see, the guy doesnt claim to be Z, but only states that he has a suspect of his own from what he found in the satchel under the bridge. Think the guy could just be a nut.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:43 pm

Interesting stuff and remember that guy from his post at Less Jones site. This guy does seem to be looking for a Zodiac suspect but who knows could be a smoke screen while he is basically telling us he is Z.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:56 pm

The Michael David Brown who played Ko Ko in The Mikado and was in The Lamplighters was NOT Aboriginal and I believe that THIS is Michael David Brown ( Zoa).

He posted the message on Les Jones' site and he posted those pictures, pics of ciphers, and some bizarre statements before removing them and now claiming to have "found" the satchel.

Funny how he posted as MDB before he claimed to be looking for this mysterious "British Aboriginal" Michael David Brown who was in the Diggers, evidently.

Anyone in SF or near should try and see what the SFPLibrary has about The Lamplighters in their SF Ephemera collection.

It is open to the public but is a see in person collection only and is 300 linear feet of files!!!!

It is well catalogued and I believe there will be a ton on The Lamplighters ( as well as on The Diggers, Good Times, and all the groups/history that was SF in the 60's).

This guy played Ko Ko for The Lamplighters production of The Mikado in 1968-70 at the height of The Zodiac spree.

That was enough to get you questioned in 1969. That plus a confession, plus his strange ciphers/codes and use of the name "Zodiac" or "Zoa", should be enough for more than a questioning in 2011.

I believe he is back in the Bay Area from Hawaii. I would start with someone at The Lamplighters, pose as an old theatre bud and see if that could get you a message to him or maybe some contact info.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:27 pm

I am communicating with Michael at this time and I would like to request for everyone to please be polite to Michael in your posts on this message board.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:02 pm

Do these two codes look the same? And, if so, are they idiosyncratic?

Compare the 1971 Zodiac code (unconfirmed)


With this one:

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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:16 pm

Ricardo wrote:
I am communicating with Michael at this time and I would like to request for everyone to please be polite to Michael in your posts on this message board.

I agree, everyone please be aware that unless this guy specifically calls himself the Zodiac, we should not jump to conclusions. Again, some of what I read seems to indicate he found stuff he believes is Z related, and not necessarily that he is calling himself Z. Ricardo,please let him know that he is not being accused of anything, but merely we are trying to understand his beliefs and connection to the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:47 pm





Uhh......? what happened to this thread??
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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:38 am

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Uhh......? what happened to this thread??


Interesting info for sure. Wow IBF, you are good...where you find that pic?
The Picture looks alot like the composite to my eye.... now you really got
my interest.


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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:54 am

Thanks Zam,

I had it before, but credit luke68, who linked it earlier. ( page 1)

I am on standby for some 1969 cast photos from a fellow former Lamplighter's thespian.

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PostSubject: Re: Michael D**** B**** AKA " Yellowbus"   Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:58 am

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Thanks Zam,

I had it before, but credit luke68, who linked it earlier. ( page 1)

I am on standby for some 1969 cast photos from a fellow, former Lamplighter's thespian.

IBF

Yeah, I just figured that out, Thanks IBF and THANKS Luke88.
Look forward to the rest of your findings IBF!
That link Luke88 posted has some interesting (trippy) stuff.
Pondering this one......


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