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morf13 Chief

Posts: 4550 Join date: 2010-03-04 Age: 41 Location: NJ
 | Subject: Paul Avery Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:02 am | |
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BrittaMoline Police Officer
Posts: 9 Join date: 2010-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:28 am | |
| I've done primary research on Avery for about a year and a half now. I can say, without a doubt, that Paul Avery was one of the most remarkable reporters who has ever lived. He's one of my great heroes and I have and will always have tremendous affection for him. Researching his life has been nothing but a joy.
If anyone is interested in Avery, please consider picking up a copy of his out-of-print book The Voices Of Guns : http://www.amazon.com/voices-guns-definitive-twenty-two-month-Symbionese/dp/0399117385/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268976341&sr=8-1
If anyone has any specific questions I'd love to take a shot at answering them! |
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morf13 Chief

Posts: 4550 Join date: 2010-03-04 Age: 41 Location: NJ
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:05 am | |
| I definitely think that if any reporter could have found out Zodiac's ID, it would have been Avery. |
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BrittaMoline Police Officer
Posts: 9 Join date: 2010-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:28 pm | |
| I can't speculate, but I think you're absolutely right. |
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Nin Chief

Posts: 451 Join date: 2010-03-07
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:33 pm | |
| | morf13 wrote: | | I definitely think that if any reporter could have found out Zodiac's ID, it would have been Avery. |
That means we have to think like Avery - or like Zodiac of course..
-Nin |
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bentley Chief

Posts: 1067 Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Bayarea
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:10 pm | |
| | BrittaMoline wrote: | If anyone has any specific questions I'd love to take a shot at answering them! |
There is a post somewhere on one of the boards from someone who knew Avery, stating he had come across a suspect of his own, I believe some years after his involvement. Any idea who that was? |
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BrittaMoline Police Officer
Posts: 9 Join date: 2010-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:46 pm | |
| | bentley wrote: | There is a post somewhere on one of the boards from someone who knew Avery, stating he had come across a suspect of his own, I believe some years after his involvement. Any idea who that was? |
Can you remember where the post was? If I could see it, I could give it a shot. Avery moved around a lot so it's impossible to know each person he was in touch with. |
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bentley Chief

Posts: 1067 Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Bayarea
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:54 pm | |
| Wow, that was easy..
http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/ozs/342.html |
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BrittaMoline Police Officer
Posts: 9 Join date: 2010-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:27 pm | |
| Ah yes, I remember this post. Until I get more information on the post/er I'm skeptical. Like Voigt's reply, Avery was really uninterested in the Zodiac beyond the late 70's and found people pursuing him about Zodiac leads to be more irritating than informative. He kept a stack of Zodiac letters in his house or office (I forgot which) and would periodically open them to laugh and throw away. He wasn't seriously investigating into the 90s.
HOWEVER! Avery was a lifelong and dogged investigator. It's very possible something piqued his interest. I find this post difficult to believe, but if more info were to ever come through I'd gladly welcome it.
If Thomas Richardson had said where he knew Avery from/how he got in contact with him, that would be a lot of help.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help to all of you. |
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Zamantha Chief

Posts: 1689 Join date: 2010-03-05 Location: Planet Earth
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:02 am | |
| http://articles.sfgate.com/2000-12-13/news/17673371_1_zodiac-killer-paul-avery-mr-avery
I'd like to thank Britta for making me aware of this article* She is a hugh Paul Avery Fan. Ten Year Anniversary of this Death. I can say this is one guy I would of loved to have meant an sat in one of those SF Bars and talked about his Z experiences. |
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tahoe27 Chief

Posts: 1815 Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Lake Tahoe
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat May 28, 2011 12:45 pm | |
| Who is this guy? Obviously not one of the two officers.
During an off-hour card game at the Hall of Justice one quiet afternoon, Paul was sitting in along with one of two policemen who responded to the shooting call that night, briefly stopping a stocky white male who was walking rapidly away from the scene but letting him go after a dispatcher put out that the suspect was black.
"I'll always wonder, did I just let the Zodiac slip through my fingers," Sgt. Jerry Senkir said, and Paul would peer at him and intone for the hundredth time: "What did you say he looked like, again?"
http://www.eastbaydaze.com/2009/10/zodiac-case-still-haunts-40-years-later.html |
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Nachtsider Chief

Posts: 746 Join date: 2010-04-20 Age: 25 Location: Behind you
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat May 28, 2011 1:40 pm | |
| He could have substituted Fouke's name with a pseudonym. |
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tracers Chief

Posts: 463 Join date: 2010-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat May 28, 2011 2:29 pm | |
| Well, this reporter can't even get the sequence of events right, IF they are talking about Fouke and Zelms. Also, Fouke swears to this day that he and Zelms never stopped anyone. So either this reporter has everything screwed up, or there was another encounter no one knows about? Is that even possible? |
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tracers Chief

Posts: 463 Join date: 2010-03-06
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat May 28, 2011 2:48 pm | |
| This is a strange article to say the least. Look at this portion: | Quote: | "Quite a case... quite a case," he would say whenever someone convinced him to drag out the dog-eared copy of the Halloween Card the killer sent him, dirty with fingerprint dust, and we would look at him and nod. Zodiac was that kind of a case, dragging in police and scribes alike, getting into their blood.
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so, are we now to believe that for years Paul Avery had the Halloween card that was dusted for prints and would pull it out and show it to people? Or does the reporter mean Paul had a xeroxed copy of the card? If so, why would that have been dusted for prints? Is the reporter referring to the card that was reportedly sent to Johns and forwarded to Avery and which Avery said he never got?
Who wrote this article anyway and what time period are they remembering?? I can't tell from what I read in that link. If I missed that info, sorry. I am assuming Duffy Jennings wrote this, but of course that may not be the case. |
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tahoe27 Chief

Posts: 1815 Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Lake Tahoe
 | Subject: Re: Paul Avery Sat May 28, 2011 3:05 pm | |
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