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PostSubject: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:14 pm

Real Name: Richard 'Dick' Hanson
Nicknames: No Known Nicknames
Location: San Jose, California
Date: 29/4/91

Credit: Unsolved Mysteries.

Details: Dick Hansen was the victim of a fatal shooting near San Jose, California. After a night out with a female friend (we'll call her Jean), the recently divorced Dick Hansen and Jean were sitting in his car on the side of the street talking when Jean noticed a man in a car pull up and park behind them. Having already commented on the fact that theirs were the only two cars left on the street, Jean noted the man in his car parked beside the mailbox behind them and asked Dick if he thought they should move up a bit to give the man more room but Dick said no, the man looked liked he had plenty of room. However, the stranger sat there the whole time they were talking and when they were ready to go, Jean agreed to follow Dick in her car because she was unfamiliar with the area. When they each left in their separate cars, the man in the car behind them also pulled out. He continued to follow them for quite some distance even after they pulled onto a highway; Jean even changed lanes a number of times thinking she could outwit him, but to no avail. Feeling spooked, she finally pulled over beside Dick's car and asked him to go to the police because of the relentless tailgater, but Dick couldn't hear her and told her to follow him off at the next exit. Jean reported that sure enough, the tailgater followed them both off of the highway, even though she nearly missed the exit. When they pulled over, Dick's friend pointed out the man in his car and Dick went back to confront him. Jean saw the stranger gesture toward her car when Dick asked him what he wanted. Dick then stepped back and shouted something like, "Get the h--- out of here!" It was then that the man fired his gun at Dick Hansen. Jean frantically rushed back to see if she could help, then froze in fear just staring at the stranger who stared back at her for some seconds before taking off into the night. Unfortunately, Dick Hansen was dead by the time paramedics arrived. Jean speculates that Dick's stature resembling that of a football player and her license plate "49'r HUGS," in reference to the San Francisco 49ers football team might have got Dick killed by a fanatical fan of a rival team.
Suspects: The suspect is a white man, with a dark complexion. He wore eyeglasses with large black frames. His car looked like a 1970 Pontiac GTO LeMans. It was a two door coupe, with a dull, faded, light grey or blue paint job.
Extra Notes: This segment originally aired on the February 16, 1994 episode of Unsolved Mysteries .


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PostSubject: Dick Hanson   Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:41 pm

Thanks Zamantha for posting this story for me. It has been another thorn in my side for yrs now. When I first saw this on TV , I felt a knot in the pit of my stomach.
I felt sure it had to be the Zodiac again.
I didn't remember that the victims were parked then moved their car. ( That made it even more like Z than I had remembered. )
I am sort of glad that Darlene's sister Pam isn't reading any of this right now , because she would freak about the woman's license plate number.

Darlene Ferrin's sister Pam, is a avid fan of the 49ers. She has 49er stuff everywhere ! Her license plate was very much like "49er Hugs".
When I saw that, I couldn't help but think about my stalker being the same as the one bothering her, and knowing what her license plate looked like. Is it possible that the killer was the same man, and he thought it was Pam H. behind the wheel of the car he was tailgating ?

The female victim said she saw the man point towards her car, maybe he was asking if that was Pam's car , because of that license plate ?
I reported all of this to the Det. who was working part time for the San Jose or Sunnyvale PD, at the time the show had aired.
Thank goodness he wasn't full time ! LOL.
When I told him I had a picture of a poi in that case, and could I send it to him to show the witness ? He said no !!!
Is it any wonder that these killers get away with murder, with people who could care less about what their job should be ?
This is not saying that all the police are lacksadaisical by no means. I thank GOD there are far more "great cops" than the few bad flakes . I wouldn't have that one pumping gas at a gas station. Many of my friends are in LE, and I love each and every one of them. They are the Heroes, who stop the cowardly killers in this world.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:46 pm

I saw this story a long time ago, and thought this could be Zodiac. I mentioned it on another forum (forget which one) a long time ago, just to gauge some opinions and nobody seemed to think it was Z. This was a cat & mouse type of "game" that the killer played, and real cold blooded murder with no motive. The victim was shot, and the perp was stocky/round faced as I recall, with glasses. If anyone has anything more on this, I would definitely love to hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:30 am

I can see the interest in this story but can we be sure it is not someone out to get Hansen as in I see that he was recently divorced, and was seeing (or was presumed to be seeing this woman) this woman, leaving in seperate cars etc. Could have something to do with his ex wife or perhaps even an admirer of the woman, given that she probably got a look at the other man and didn't know him we could probably rule that one out. The circumstances of his divorce would be interesting. Did he leave his wife for another woman (could she have wanted the other woman harmed), could she or a family relative of hers have hired someone to get him. Financial circumstances. More info required to be honest, his description is very Z like but he obviously spoke to Hansen, wonder what he said?
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:43 am

Solar Pons wrote:
I can see the interest in this story but can we be sure it is not someone out to get Hansen as in I see that he was recently divorced, and was seeing (or was presumed to be seeing this woman) this woman, leaving in seperate cars etc. Could have something to do with his ex wife or perhaps even an admirer of the woman, given that she probably got a look at the other man and didn't know him we could probably rule that one out. The circumstances of his divorce would be interesting. Did he leave his wife for another woman (could she have wanted the other woman harmed), could she or a family relative of hers have hired someone to get him. Financial circumstances. More info required to be honest, his description is very Z like but he obviously spoke to Hansen, wonder what he said?

If I remember, they had both met up as part of a group, and then continued to hang out together. When she dropped him off at his truck, the killer pulled in behind them, and sat there watching them. At first they did not pay any mind to him, but then when they both pulled out, the killer followed them. Out on the highway, the woman that was Hansen's date, knew she was being followed, and did some quick turns, stops, etc, and the killer did the exact same moves. Finally, she signalled to Hansen, who was in his car, to pull over. When they did, the killer pulled up behind them again. Hansen went back to talk to the killer.The female who was sitting in her car saw the killer pointing to the back of her car. Hansen then became enraged and started yelling at the killer. Thats when he opened fire on Hansen. He then stared at the female before leaving the scene without hurting her.

Police looked closely into his background, but found no signs that he was involved in any drugs, or shady activities.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:01 am

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He then stared at the female before leaving the scene without hurting her.
Shades of Kathy Johns.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:26 pm

Thanks for the link Morph, it's very interesting. Strange though after killing Hanson that the man did not open fire upon 'Jean'. If this was Z related then I doubt we could say he was more interested in killing the female.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:44 pm

When I saw this on UM years ago, I thought about Zodiac, mainly because of the glasses, the shooting murder, and the fact it happened in the bay area. The road games the killer played with these two people reminds me much of the typs of road games allegedly played by Lyndon Lafferty's suspect, 'Andrew Todd Walker' . If you google hard enough, you can maybe find videos of the episode on the net.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:07 pm

Maybe Foreigner could tell us for sure...was his last name HANSON or HANSEN?

By the way, I had posted on one of the other forums (think it was ZodiacZee) about this guy's murder, and I think i had found a video of the episode, but I looked and cant find the video. I do own the Unsolved Mysteries sets on DVD and I think this case was on one of those dvds.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:08 pm

Here is what a member on a UM forum had to say. Not sure if its right-

"I looked this up on the UM site. They don't say what freeway Dick was driving on. He was from Sunnyvale, CA, which is between San Francisco and San Jose. It's just a bit NW from San Jose.
The expressways nearby are the 101, which is closest to Sunnyvale. The 880 which is between San Jose and Santa Clara, near Sunnyvale. Then there's the smaller 237, which is close to Sunnyvale, and the 280, 85, & 17.
I've only been to San Francisco back in 2003, and don't know a thing about the San Jose area. I don't know what roads were around back when Dick Hansen was murdered, how busy they were, or even what freeway he and Jean were being chased on. It's pretty interesting to look at a map and speculate, tho
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:26 pm

Video said the killer was in his late 30's to early 40's at the time of the 1991 murder. Also may have been "olive complected". May not be Zodiac.

Then again ,who knows. The utter lack of a motive certainly seems like Z.
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PostSubject: z like killing   Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:36 pm

The age 30 to 40 is how he could have looked in 1991. How old do you think the man in my picture would look late at night with very little lighting ? The picture I took of my stalker in 1990 ,some people have said he looked to be in his 40's. My guess was in his 50's in 1990.
Each time I would see my secret admirer, he would look very different.
He is very good with disguises, even dressed as a woman I didn't know it was the same guy.

We can't judge why he didn't shoot Jean, the Z threatened Paul Avery but didn't kill him , and he knew where Kathleen Johns lived , but she wasn't killed by him either.
My stalker had many chances to kill me and didn't, I am sure he would have, if that was what he wanted to do ?
Perhaps my taking his picture and giving it to the police made him think that it wouldn't be a good idea to kill me. It was better to make me look like some crazy old lady, and let me live. After all no one would believe that the Zodiac was playing games with me, and I was still alive now would they ? What he is doing is called "reverse physiology", and I do believe it has worked for him for over 40 yrs now.

When I watched the video minutes ago, it took me back to the nights that he did this to me, and there was no one to help. I did pretty much what she did, and my stalker did do the very same thing to me , on many occasions.
It is my contention that this man thought the woman could have been Darlene's sister Pam, because the plate was very much like Pam's. If he would have shot her and it was Pam, then the police would have to believe us both, and he just might have been caught. He has made her look crazy as well. I need to look at all the plate numbers I have on him, and see if any were the light gray or blue car that this killer drove in 91. I also need to check for a letter I received from a man who walked me to my car in San Jose one late after noon.

My stalker had followed me to San Jose , but I didn't know it until I saw him standing at the counter looking around the room for me. I had ducked down low and he didn't see me there, so he must have gone to another level of that city building down town San Jose. One of the workers there saw that I was hiding, and asked what was going on ? I told him a man had followed me and could he please walk me to my car ? He did , I got to my friends house near down town safe. I wish that the video no. 2 was full screen so I could have seen the composite drawing. It only showed the top part of the face. In reading my posts ,it sounds like this is all about me, believe me its not , its about stopping this man from killing anyone else ! Also I am trying to prove that what I am telling everyone happens to be true , the Zodiac is still alive and killing ! He is not dead or in a hospital some where , or has stopped his killing !
It is so damn frustrating to know what I know ,and try to convey it to everyone, yet no one seems to get it ?


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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:40 pm

Sandy, you have to remember, there is no proof that your stalker was the Zodiac, or if he was the killer of Richard Hanson.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:16 pm

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Sandy, you have to remember, there is no proof that your stalker was the Zodiac, or if he was the killer of Richard Hanson.

I do have the proof, its the police in "Napa" who have dropped the ball on the evidence I have ! What I am saying is that the man that follows me, and who has done this to Darlene's sister, has done this "many times" to me as well. The man in my picture has been a Zodiac suspect is what was said to me by VPD . If he is indeed Larry Kane like I have been told, then yes he is a Z suspect. Don't forget that Kathleen Johns did pick out the very same picture that I did , for my stalker. Was she mistaken to ? And Darlene's brothers and sisters ?

The letters that had z printing that were given to me by my "secret" admirer. I was told were too much like the Zodiac's to be his ? Others said yes it is the Z's printing, another said no.
How would you or anyone else explain the costume that the killer used at Lake Berryessa, being put in my car in Napa just hours after the killing ? "Everyone" seems to ignore that happened ! And that was before it was ever described in the news ? No one could have made it then planted it in my car, not knowing what it looked like Geez !

The one and only person who had that costume on that day, was the killer of Cecelia Shepard. But yet as I said before no one can See that. So if that is the case, then everyone must think that I am a liar ? Or I am crazy ?
I realize it takes a long time for water to seep through cement. It seems that all of the people who I have told, have heads made of that very same thing ?
I feel like I am beating my head againest a wall.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:05 pm

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Sandy, you have to remember, there is no proof that your stalker was the Zodiac, or if he was the killer of Richard Hanson.

I do have the proof, its the police in "Napa" who have dropped the ball on the evidence I have ! What I am saying is that the man that follows me, and who has done this to Darlene's sister, has done this "many times" to me as well. The man in my picture has been a Zodiac suspect is what was said to me by VPD . If he is indeed Larry Kane like I have been told, then yes he is a Z suspect. Don't forget that Kathleen Johns did pick out the very same picture that I did , for my stalker. Was she mistaken to ? And Darlene's brothers and sisters ?

The letters that had z printing that were given to me by my "secret" admirer. I was told were too much like the Zodiac's to be his ? Others said yes it is the Z's printing, another said no.
How would you or anyone else explain the costume that the killer used at Lake Berryessa, being put in my car in Napa just hours after the killing ? "Everyone" seems to ignore that happened ! And that was before it was ever described in the news ? No one could have made it then planted it in my car, not knowing what it looked like Geez !

The one and only person who had that costume on that day, was the killer of Cecelia Shepard. But yet as I said before no one can See that. So if that is the case, then everyone must think that I am a liar ? Or I am crazy ?
I realize it takes a long time for water to seep through cement. It seems that all of the people who I have told, have heads made of that very same thing ?
I feel like I am beating my head againest a wall.

Certainly not saying you are crazy, or lying. Just that you cant prove that the person stalking you was the Zodiac, or was Hansen's killer. You would need the original hood to be in your posession, so the cops could do DNA blood tests on it to see if Bryan's or cecilia's blood is on there.
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PostSubject: Sandy   Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:31 pm

I get it. Not everyone feels that way Sandy. I don't think you're crazy or a liar. But there's no way you can ever prove the un-provable. You don't have the package that was left for you (and I do believe it was left for you, for a reason as I've told you before), it's gone and nothing can be done about that. You were the first citizen to come forward to cops with some info on this case (after LB), at least that I know of.
I wonder how much this gal resembled Pam? We all have lived through the Bay Area football scene, typically Raider's fans vs. 49er fans, but they don't wind up in murder. If this guy just had a problem with her being a 49er fan, I'm sure he would have openly voiced it. No, this guy pulls in behind them, with gun in hand. Gets a good look at gal going to her car and still persists chasing after her. This wasn't a football fan crazy, he would have been yelling that at her. This was a crazy guy for sure. Z? I don't know. But if he wanted to kill her, he had ample time and opportunity.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:25 pm

Thanks BA60's.
Morf No one can't prove that it isn't Hansen's killer, or the Zodiac either, can you ?

I was looking last night, to see what else could find on Dick Hansen's murder. I found a message board Sitcom online, found out that the female described the shooter as possibly being Hispanic, now that is looking more like my POI I think ?
She also had mentioned her fear was that it was Zodiac, what a coincidence that is ! We can't just assume either way can we, but it is something to checkout and not dismiss, just because you don't think it could be .
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:09 pm

It's obviously LE dropping the ball! Sandy and others have evidence and misc. items that should be DNA tested to either confirm or not if it relates to the case
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:20 pm

Thanks Zodio, If Napa PD would just check the blood on the book that was left with the Lake B costume, that would be a start at least. It's as if they are just going in circles. They have the money to do it, and it is a lot better than what they have had to work with.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:36 pm

Sandy,
Don't know if your POI is Z or not but he is definitly one bad seed. The cold case detectives need to see ALL persons with evidence and sort it all out from DK's hood, Little Debbie's glasses, your items, the prints, etc. and conclude exactly what they have. Right now it seems such a mismatch the left hand doesn't know what the right is holding.
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:12 pm

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Sandy,
Don't know if your POI is Z or not but he is definitly one bad seed. The cold case detectives need to see ALL persons with evidence and sort it all out from DK's hood, Little Debbie's glasses, your items, the prints, etc. and conclude exactly what they have. Right now it seems such a mismatch the left hand doesn't know what the right is holding.

Its because of people like DK and Debbie Perez, that the police are turned off of people like me who sound like those two.
And in no way do I want to grand stand on the steps of the S.F. Chron., or go on TV with what I have to live with every day.
That would be asking for dangerous problems, I would rather let the police take all of the credit ,and leave me out of it. Just use what I have to catch the killer. That is all I ask, or prove me wrong about what I have, as not being human blood from the lake B. murder. Then I can get on with my life instead of working almost every day, to find out who this man is ?
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:31 pm

I feel for you believe me. You've been through alot and should be proud of all you have accomplished and stood up to. My point is that ALL evidence needs to be checked so LE knows exactly what they have and don't. They must believe they have enough to rule suspects out but is it really?
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PostSubject: Re: Richard "Dick" Hansen   Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:28 pm

Sandy,

couldn´t follow your full story yet...what sort of book is it that you had found? Do you think it was one from Cecilia Shephard? Where exactly did you find these things and where are they now?

In any case I think you should use media coverage to focus investigations on it, especially if police doesn´t act by themselves. I think there was too much time to wait, eventually you should talk to a prominent to support your thoughts on DNA analysis etc..


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