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PostSubject: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:08 pm

In this thread, please post your ideas about any possible Zodiac connection to SONOMA COUNTY, including possible victims, sketches, articles, etc
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:18 pm


Details and origin of this sketch seem to be unknown.

This article shows some interest on the part of Sonoma County sheriffs dept, that Zodiac was operating in Sonoma County, and in other states too.


And from this site, http://dcuaresma33.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!6300C37103D2AEB4!1834.entry
(not sure how accurate these details are), there is even more interest on the part of Sonoma County.

November 07
Was the Sonoma Killer the Zodiac?
[Footnote 1]-Butch Carlstedt, a then Sonoma County sheriffs detective who hounded the killer of seven young females in the early 1970’s, was nearly struck with awe after finding a occult symbol in a rural area where the bodies of three murdered hitchhikers were found . He had trekked around the country looking for any leads to suspected so called Satanic practices,mainly in Washington. The baffled investigator linked witchcraft to the serial killer known as Zodiac, because of the symbol found near the body of one victim in 1973 indicated, "to accelerate the souls to the afterlife" according to Carlstedt. The hooded Zodiac killer who eluded Bay Area law enforcement detectives during the late 1960’s once wrote in a November 9,1969 missive "I shall change the way I collect slaves for afterlife", a parallel to the occult. Ancient Egyptians practiced configuring a near exact type of ritual of placing formation of sticks and stones near the body of a deceased for the soul would travel to the afterlife.


A little known mystery was the Zodiac could of used a astrological chart to deliver out his murders; his victims were attacked during the full moon and holidays, such in the double murders of Betty Lou Jensen and David Faraday. Both teenagers were shot by a elusive gunman during the late evening on December 20,1968 in Benicia. Several months later, Zodiac wrote to the Bay Area newspapers taking credit for the attack and another, a month after the boastful slayer sent out his first missive. The interval of each murder date became much short between December 1968 to October 1969; between Zodiac’s attack on Jensen-Faraday and another couple at Vallejo golf-course parking lot had been 25 weeks apart. The next was a 12 week gap, and closing in at two weeks between the September 27,1969 assault at Lake Berryessa and October 11, when San Francisco cabbie Paul Stine, the last known Zodiac victim.
Between 1969 to September 1974, a series of unsolved homicides and disappearances correlated within days before a equinox or a solstice. All involving at least 40 female homicides in the West Coast. For example, missing Lake Tahoe nurse Donna Lass was abducted and presumed killed by Zodiac. She was last seen on September 6,1970 leaving her Tahoe apartment that day on her way to work at a casino. Though a Zodiac postcard was sent to the San Franciso Chronicle on March 22,1971, a year later after Kathleen Johns was allegedly abducted from a man thought to be Zodiac. Zodiac made it a habit to write a corresponding letter to the media one year after committing his murders. On the postcard,Zodiac wrote SOUGHT VICTIM 12 as to say that he was taking credit for Lass’s abduction, but that doesn’t prove he did it. To this very day, the Tahoe nurse has not resurfaced. A suspect who lived also in Tahoe had become a focus suspect in the disappearance. Therese Walsh, a hitchhiker from Malibu, was seen alive on December 22,1973, two days after the Winter solstice, a significant meaning to Zodiac. The slayer was active on December 20,1968 and a exactly a year later, he sent a personal letter to attorney Melvin Belli.

By January 1974, after a three year abscense of the Zodiac killer during a time when he wasn’t heard from since 1971, the cryptic slayer wrote once again; this time, claiming a unofficial tally of 37 victims, a count list that could of spread out for hundreds of miles across California. The late Sonoma sheriff Don Striepeke, who was responsible for heading out the investigation of the murders of seven females in Sonoma County between a two year period 1972-1973, performed a further check, he said led him to believe Zodiac was choosing multiple murder sites in the western states to draw out a huge "Z" reaching from Salinas,Calif to Colorado. Striepeke also believed Zodiac was the culprit in the Santa Rosa Hitchhiking Murders. [Footnote 2]-His detective,Carlstedt, told the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat, the murders finally came to a end after a suspect died in 1976, and another deceased man. "After those two guys died, there was nothing. No more female homicide. I’d bet money it was them, but it can never be proven", said Carlstedt.

In Sonoma County, on the Santa Rosa Plains, in the Eastern land that stretches into the Valley Of The Moon. Between 1950-1970, the population of Santa Rosa grew 2/3 since World War II; a average of 1,000 new residents per year from immigration, annexations of portions of the surrounding North Bay Area. The fifth biggest community of the San Francisco Bay Area metropolitan, Santa Rosa is 55 miles north of San Francisco and in between is Highway 101,the main vessel getting to and from each of its cities. Just off the Mark West Creek Road on-ramp,a drive leading from 101 to a fork on the road. Franz Valley Road on the left and to the right, Porter Creek Road. A diligent murderer had used Franz Valley to dispose of three girls somewhere off a road embankment some 60 feet below. I did remember how the Zodiac while scoping out for his prey used two different roads in Vallejo. At one time he had drove right at a fork leading into Lake Herman Road, then the next time around he had taken a left on Columbus Parkway. The same standards used in rural Sonoma.

When I had driven on Franz Valley Road, I tried to find a location on the left side of the road where bodies were found. All I could remember is a scenic remote drive with meadowlands on each side then began scanning for a blind curve on Franz on one side, and across the narrow road -a stretch of wire fence. The surrounding areas were lodged inside a forest with manzanita trees leading down a ravine. On a spring day in 1993, I pulled over the side of Franz Valley Road onto a area where I believed the Santa Rosa killer had tossed the bodies of girls off a embankment. At that time, my resources was the yellow Robert Graysmith ZODIAC book, a map of Santa Rosa, and a copy of a newspaper article; all would serve me as the only materials to be helpful. Oblivious, I was not informed the precious locations of the sites were not mentioned anywhere. In the years following 1972, a subsequent change of the road where Kim Wendy Allen was supposedly found had been near Enterprise Road, when in fact she was found on off a Grange Road creek bed
A unconfirmed story of Zodiac suspect,[Footnote 3]-Allen,was supposedly seen walking away from a processing crime scene in Sonoma during one incident. This happened when Sonoma County sheriff investigators were sealing off a area where a killer dumped a body. Allen said, "I travel this road to go skin diving." This amusing incident is found in both books ZODIAC and ZODIAC UNMASKED. Had this been checked out for any validity to it, two things are peculiar

Arthur Leigh Allen told investigators he was traveling on this road(not listed) to go out skin diving. If true, then Allen’s suspicious whereabouts lead him into warranted trouble with the law. This location where Allen was sighted in rural Sonoma is not even close to an geograhical location where he could skin dive. There are creeks along the side of the areas where the bodies were found.

Investigators would of held Allen for question on why he was walking away from a crime scene. There would be no room for them to let him slip by; he may of contaminated the site, though no evidence was traced to him or any other suspect.

All I realized upon driving on rural Sonoma was the names of the roads named after water: Porter Creek Road, Calistoga Road, Mark West Creek. Water,water everywhere. Zodiac was either leaving behind a vital clue to his method in Santa Rosa had he been the killer, or somebody else was duplicating of being a copycat that is more horrifying. Years later, I would learn there more than 130 leads and suspects in the murders of 40 slayings in California, Utah, Washington, and Colorado. Ted Bundy was responsible for many of those murders, while the other murders in California remains unsolved. Here is a 1975 UPI headline I found last year:

[Footnote 4]-

40 slayings in 4 Western States link to ’Zodiac’?

Santa Rosa,Calif - UPI-

Authorities in four western states are rechecking the slayings of some 40

young women for clues that would link them to the "Zodiac Killer" who

police think is seeking slaves for his afterlife.

The so-called Zodiac killer began using cryptic notes to a San Francisco

newspaper in 1968 to announce murders. He said he had killed 37 persons

in California, but police confirmed only six. He had not been heard

from in four years.

In Santa Rosa, 45 miles north of San Francisco, Sonoma County Sheriff

Don Striepeke said yesterday an Ancient English witchcraft sign

found at a remote site where the bodies of three women were found

indicated the Zodiac stalker was the slayer. A further check, he said led him

to believe Zodiac also murdered women in Utah, Washington, Colorado.

One of Striepeke’s detective, Erwin Carlstedt said the killer may

be choosing murder sites to trace out a giant "Z" across the

western United States.

Striepeke and Carlstedt said they developed their theory

after studying the deaths of six girls killed in Sonoma County over a

period of two years and a Seattle case in which the remains of seven

young women were found.

The killer of the girls in Sonoma County left a note

saying the victims were "slaves I will collect for my afterlife",

Striepeke said
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I wonder if one of these women's cases, produced a sketch??? And since Sonoma thought they may have been Z victim(s), they used the sketch from her case as a "zodiac sketch"?

Also amazing if it is indeed true that the SONOMA Victim(s) were referred to in a letter, as SLAVES by their killer.

Maybe SEAGULL, can shed some light on some of these victims from there?
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:29 pm

"when the bodies of seven young women were discovered in rural areas just outside of Santa Rosa in a killing spree now known as the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders. At the time, Zodiac hysteria was at its height, and the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department considered the elusive serial killer a prime suspect.
Most of the young women had been hitchhiking along or near Highway 101. The killer--or killers--preferred strangling the victim and discarding her nude body in rural roadside gullies like so much refuse. The victims ranged from 12 to 22 in age; some were sexually assaulted.
Today, the murderer of those seven young women remains a matter of conjecture, not fact. The case is unsolved.
"It's all speculation," explains John Hess, a retired Sonoma County Sheriff's detective who helped lead the investigation of the Hitchhiker Murders. Hess, now in his 70s, worked dozens of homicide cases during his career, but still recalls the names of each of the seven young women and where they were found. "We could never come up with anything definite," he says. "It's hard to say what happened."


"A mysterious killer who called himself “The Zodiac,” is suspected of murdering at least five people between 1966 and 1969. The Zodiac is known to have had victims in Napa and San Francisco and is suspected of many others in surrounding counties. In the early 1970’s, some of Sonoma County’s homicide cases were investigated for possible links to the Zodiac but turned up nothing conclusive. During the time of the murders and “…well into the 1970’s, (the Zodiac) sent dozens of letters, codes and diagrams to area newspapers detailing his crimes, taunting the police, threatening mayhem, and claiming to identify himself.” Nevertheless, the Zodiac has remained elusive to “…no less than four local police forces, the California State Department of Justice, the U.S. Postal Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Office of Naval Intelligence for over 30 years.” Even today, the identity of the Zodiac killer remains a mystery."

"There were a series of homicides beginning in 1971 and ending in 1977, which involved eleven victims. The victims were females between the ages of twelve and twenty-three. Potential suspects included the Zodiac murderer and Ted Bundy. Although over the years, detectives have devoted countless hours to solving these crimes, the cases remain unsolved."
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:53 pm

Another article that mentions some of the victims that Sonoma County suspected was the work of one killer, possibly Z

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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:06 pm

Here is a big article from APRIL 30,1975 UKIAH DAILY JOURNAL, that mentions Sonoma county beliefs about the murders, as well as a profile, and some victim names:

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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:02 pm

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I am aware of the person who wrote the blog in your first post. He has mixed some fact and fiction. Elsewhere on his site he says that Kim Allen was not found where it is commonly known that she was found. If you believe him then her death certificate has been fiddled with and I don't believe that is the case. I have tried to contact this guy more than once and he won't return my IM's or email. He has hotlinked images from my site and not followed the protocol I have to be able post my information with permission. I've had to rename pages because of him and he is still screwing up my stats because he won't remove the blank spaces I've left him with.

Most of the other stuff you posted is related to Sonoma County's big Giant Z Theory which did not pan out for them. A number of the victims named turned out to be victims of Ted Bundy. I have articles about this whole deal but my webmaster hasn't posted them yet.

A good article appeared in the Sept. 1975 issue of Front Page Detective magazine. This article has a photo of the Witchcraft symbol. This article is at ZK's main site.

http://zodiackiller.com/FrontPageDetective21.html

The article is fairly accurate and similar to the newspaper articles that appeared at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:15 pm

Here is what I have been able to gather on Zodiac forums, of different opinions on the Sonoma sketch:


Tom Voigt:
One of the sketches of Zodiac that Dennis uses isn't a true composite; it's merely an interpretation by a Sonoma detective on what Zodiac might look like without glasses. It was not based on any eyewitness description, regardless of what one might read in a certain blue book


Steven Hodel:
This composite is only possibly Zodiac related and little information is known about it other than it was believed drawn of a suspect in the “attempted kindaping of a female in the Sonoma area” and law enforcement believed it might have been Zodiac related.


Dennis Kaufman 11/05/07 :
I don't know the actual case number, but the composite was Commissioned by Don Striepeke of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department in 1975.

Dennis Kaufman11/13/07:
The only thing I know about the Sonoma composite is what Sgt Steve Brown told me, I did not get any details. You might be able to get more information about this composite from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept. The bottom line is, the Sonoma composite was made in hopes of identifying a suspect, and for obvious reasons it looks like Jack. The composite looks nothing like Allen, or any of the other suspects. Tom Voigt claims this composite was an artist's impression of what zodiac looked like without his glasses on, if this is true, then the artist did one hell of a job!


So maybe sunny SEAGULL sunny could help out by asking :

Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept ?

Don Striepeke (if he is still alve)?

Sgt Steve Brown ?
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:35 pm



Courtesy of the excellent site http://www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:40 pm

One of the many things that interests me about these POSSIBLE Zodiac murders in Sonoma/Santa Rosa is that the Sonoma sketch looks like an older version of one of the sketches of SANDY, a suspect in the very Lake Berryessa like couples murder in Santa Barbara 1963.

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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:42 pm

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I have asked the person I am currently in contact with at the Sonoma County SO and he does not know what composite I am talking about. In a way this is not surprising as he is working the SRHM and not the Zodiac case.

I have talked to Butch Carlstedt in the past but he has made it clear that he is retired and no longer wants to talk about the cases.

The Sgt. Steve Brown that Kaufman mentions is probably Det. Lt. Mike Brown one of Mike Kelleher's contacts at Sonoma County SO. As far as I know he is retired and he has such a common name hat tracking him down would be difficult. Best to contact Kelleher. I doubt that Kaufman has ever spoken to Sonoma County!

I've never tried to find Streipke.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:44 pm

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I know there is evidence suggesting Allen was raped. Do you know if they have possible suspect DNA from Allen or any of the other Sonoma/Santa Rosa victims?
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:52 pm

AK

I know that they want to test the evidence they do have to see if there is any DNA from a suspect present. Fom what I know both Kim Allen and Therese Walsh were sexually assualted.

The problem the SO has is money. The newer cases take priority and there is no money to do the cold cases. They have applied for two grants that I know of to do the testing but one was turned down and the other is pending.

I have told them about NamUs which will pay for the testing, the SO was unaware of the organization, but I don't know if the SO has contacted them.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:00 pm

Thanks.

Thats too bad that money is blocking what could be significant evidence.

With possible suspect DNA, it could be compared to the possible Zodiac DNA the SFPD has (which is 50/50 that it is real) and the DNA from the EAR/ONS, as well as added to CODIS for a possible match to a person.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:01 pm

Theforeigner wrote:
Here is what I have been able to gather on Zodiac forums, of different opinions on the Sonoma sketch:


Tom Voigt:
One of the sketches of Zodiac that Dennis uses isn't a true composite; it's merely an interpretation by a Sonoma detective on what Zodiac might look like without glasses. It was not based on any eyewitness description, regardless of what one might read in a certain blue book


Steven Hodel:
This composite is only possibly Zodiac related and little information is known about it other than it was believed drawn of a suspect in the “attempted kindaping of a female in the Sonoma area” and law enforcement believed it might have been Zodiac related.


Dennis Kaufman 11/05/07 :
I don't know the actual case number, but the composite was Commissioned by Don Striepeke of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department in 1975.

Dennis Kaufman11/13/07:
The only thing I know about the Sonoma composite is what Sgt Steve Brown told me, I did not get any details. You might be able to get more information about this composite from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept. The bottom line is, the Sonoma composite was made in hopes of identifying a suspect, and for obvious reasons it looks like Jack. The composite looks nothing like Allen, or any of the other suspects. Tom Voigt claims this composite was an artist's impression of what zodiac looked like without his glasses on, if this is true, then the artist did one hell of a job!


So maybe sunny SEAGULL sunny could help out by asking :

Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept ?

Don Striepeke (if he is still alve)?

Sgt Steve Brown ?


Here is additional, alledged, information on the Sonoma sketch by Dennis Kaufman.
How correct the info is, is hard to say due to that we know DK is not always telling the truth :

11/05/07 at 01:01 AM
Posted By: dennislkaufman Views: 23,574
Tom, I worked with Sgt Steve Brown from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept for several months, and I can assure you that thier composite is not just an artists rendition of what Zodiac looked like without his glasses, who are you trying to fool partner. This composite was done in 1975, when a woman was stopped at a red light. A man came out of the bushes and tried to open the passenger door, the woman hit the gas pedal and the man fell to the pavement. This incident took place during daylight hours and the mans face was clearly visible, this is how this composite came about...
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:05 pm

Who to believe, Tom Voigt or Dennis Kaufman???


Aaaarrggghhh!

It doesn't make sense to me that they would just update the SF sketch without glasses, and the Sonoma sketch doesn't really look like it is just an updated SF sketch, it has slight variances.

The DK story is more believable, and it fits what I heard, that it was based on a witness description of a suspect in Sonoma County.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:25 pm

FWIW I do know of a connection between two of the SRHM victims that has never been brought up before. I wouldn't bring it up on a more public board but as this board is relatively private I think I'm safe to do so.

Yvonne Weber had a good friend named Donna Cheney who she went to school with and they lived just four or five blocks from eachother growing up. After Donna graduated from high school she married Yvonne's older brother Mark. They married in Nevada, the record has Mark's last name mispelled as Weker. I figure this was probably a transposing error maybe from illedgeable handwriting.

Lori Kursa lived with her mother and stepfather, Lorraine and Ron Kursa, at 386 Delores Lane Santa Rosa. They were renters and their landlord was Donna Cheney's father, Carl Cheney.

I know what your thinking..... Don Cheney! Well, both The Foreigner and I tried to find a connection between Don and Carl Cheney but we were unable to do so.

The Delores Lane address still exists and the Cheney's still own it, as a matter of fact they have an engraving business on the same block. It is possible that Donna and her friend Yvonne had gone to the Delores Lane address with Donna's father for one reason or another and had met Lori.

I was told about this connection by Yvonne's younger sister, BTW.
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:28 pm

Seagull wrote:
TF

I have asked the person I am currently in contact with at the Sonoma County SO and he does not know what composite I am talking about. In a way this is not surprising as he is working the SRHM and not the Zodiac case.

I have talked to Butch Carlstedt in the past but he has made it clear that he is retired and no longer wants to talk about the cases.

The Sgt. Steve Brown that Kaufman mentions is probably Det. Lt. Mike Brown one of Mike Kelleher's contacts at Sonoma County SO. As far as I know he is retired and he has such a common name hat tracking him down would be difficult. Best to contact Kelleher. I doubt that Kaufman has ever spoken to Sonoma County!

I've never tried to find Streipke.

Thanks Seagull:)

Maybe you could email the guy, you are in contact with, a copy of the sketch?

Due to that Sonoma LE, when Don Striepeke was sheriff from 1970 to 1981, did suspect Zodiac as a possible suspect in the SR murders, this guy, who now is in charge, ought to have som kind of knowledge of the Zodiac case.

To bad, and a bit odd IMHO; that Butch Carsted don´t want to talk about the case.

Sheriff Don Louis Striepeke is death, he died in 1988, but his son is alive, he was born in 1950 and he live in the area, you can easily find him on Ancestry, his name is Donald ray Striepeke. maybe he knows somthing?

I´ll try to find Sgt. Brown, if I find him I´ll PM you the info.

Concerning Kaufman...I guess your are right, but I havent given up on miracles:)
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:26 pm

AK Wilks wrote:
Who to believe, Tom Voigt or Dennis Kaufman???


Aaaarrggghhh!



BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY AK! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:27 pm

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I am aware of the person who wrote the blog in your first post. He has mixed some fact and fiction. Elsewhere on his site he says that Kim Allen was not found where it is commonly known that she was found. If you believe him then her death certificate has been fiddled with and I don't believe that is the case. I have tried to contact this guy more than once and he won't return my IM's or email. He has hotlinked images from my site and not followed the protocol I have to be able post my information with permission. I've had to rename pages because of him and he is still screwing up my stats because he won't remove the blank spaces I've left him with.

Most of the other stuff you posted is related to Sonoma County's big Giant Z Theory which did not pan out for them. A number of the victims named turned out to be victims of Ted Bundy. I have articles about this whole deal but my webmaster hasn't posted them yet.

A good article appeared in the Sept. 1975 issue of Front Page Detective magazine. This article has a photo of the Witchcraft symbol. This article is at ZK's main site.

http://zodiackiller.com/FrontPageDetective21.html

The article is fairly accurate and similar to the newspaper articles that appeared at the time.

Seagull, thanks for all that info! Yeah, i wasnt sure how much of that one article was true. By the way, was there any new possible victims listed in those articles?
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:29 pm

Thanks Foreigner & Seagull, some great stuff here from you two as usual!
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:34 pm

This is something i found. There was someone named Joseph Otto Ebenberger Jr who confessed to the first murder that was suppose to be a possible murder victim.
At least its intresting enough. And I believe the father worked at some Naval place. Sounds familiar somehow. Perhaps you can sort it out.

From a website:(link further down)

Was the Sonoma Killer the Zodiac?
[Footnote 1]-Butch Carlstedt, a then Sonoma County sheriffs detective who hounded the killer of seven young females in the early 1970’s, was nearly struck with awe after finding a occult symbol in a rural area where the bodies of three murdered hitchhikers were found . He had trekked around the country looking for any leads to suspected so called Satanic practices,mainly in Washington. The baffled investigator linked witchcraft to the serial killer known as Zodiac, because of the symbol found near the body of one victim in 1973 indicated, "to accelerate the souls to the afterlife" according to Carlstedt. The hooded Zodiac killer who eluded Bay Area law enforcement detectives during the late 1960’s once wrote in a November 9,1969 missive "I shall change the way I collect slaves for afterlife", a parallel to the occult. Ancient Egyptians practiced configuring a near exact type of ritual of placing formation of sticks and stones near the body of a deceased for the soul would travel to the afterlife.

A little known mystery was the Zodiac could of used a astrological chart to deliver out his murders; his victims were attacked during the full moon and holidays, such in the double murders of Betty Lou Jensen and David Faraday. Both teenagers were shot by a elusive gunman during the late evening on December 20,1968 in Benicia. Several months later, Zodiac wrote to the Bay Area newspapers taking credit for the attack and another, a month after the boastful slayer sent out his first missive. The interval of each murder date became much short between December 1968 to October 1969; between Zodiac’s attack on Jensen-Faraday and another couple at Vallejo golf-course parking lot had been 25 weeks apart. The next was a 12 week gap, and closing in at two weeks between the September 27,1969 assault at Lake Berryessa and October 11, when San Francisco cabbie Paul Stine, the last known Zodiac victim.

Between 1969 to September 1974, a series of unsolved homicides and disappearances correlated within days before a equinox or a solstice. All involving at least 40 female homicides in the West Coast. For example, missing Lake Tahoe nurse Donna Lass was abducted and presumed killed by Zodiac. She was last seen on September 6,1970 leaving her Tahoe apartment that day on her way to work at a casino. Though a Zodiac postcard was sent to the San Franciso Chronicle on March 22,1971, a year later after Kathleen Johns was allegedly abducted from a man thought to be Zodiac. Zodiac made it a habit to write a corresponding letter to the media one year after committing his murders. On the postcard,Zodiac wrote SOUGHT VICTIM 12 as to say that he was taking credit for Lass’s abduction, but that doesn’t prove he did it. To this very day, the Tahoe nurse has not resurfaced. A suspect who lived also in Tahoe had become a focus suspect in the disappearance. Therese Walsh, a hitchhiker from Malibu, was seen alive on December 22,1973, two days after the Winter solstice, a significant meaning to Zodiac. The slayer was active on December 20,1968 and a exactly a year later, he sent a personal letter to attorney Melvin Belli.

By January 1974, after a three year abscense of the Zodiac killer during a time when he wasn’t heard from since 1971, the cryptic slayer wrote once again; this time, claiming a unofficial tally of 37 victims, a count list that could of spread out for hundreds of miles across California. The late Sonoma sheriff Don Striepeke, who was responsible for heading out the investigation of the murders of seven females in Sonoma County between a two year period 1972-1973, performed a further check, he said led him to believe Zodiac was choosing multiple murder sites in the western states to draw out a huge "Z" reaching from Salinas,Calif to Colorado. Striepeke also believed Zodiac was the culprit in the Santa Rosa Hitchhiking Murders. [Footnote 2]-His detective,Carlstedt, told the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat, the murders finally came to a end after a suspect died in 1976, and another deceased man. "After those two guys died, there was nothing. No more female homicide. I’d bet money it was them, but it can never be proven", said Carlstedt.

In Sonoma County, on the Santa Rosa Plains, in the Eastern land that stretches into the Valley Of The Moon. Between 1950-1970, the population of Santa Rosa grew 2/3 since World War II; a average of 1,000 new residents per year from immigration, annexations of portions of the surrounding North Bay Area. The fifth biggest community of the San Francisco Bay Area metropolitan, Santa Rosa is 55 miles north of San Francisco and in between is Highway 101,the main vessel getting to and from each of its cities. Just off the Mark West Creek Road on-ramp,a drive leading from 101 to a fork on the road. Franz Valley Road on the left and to the right, Porter Creek Road. A diligent murderer had used Franz Valley to dispose of three girls somewhere off a road embankment some 60 feet below. I did remember how the Zodiac while scoping out for his prey used two different roads in Vallejo. At one time he had drove right at a fork leading into Lake Herman Road, then the next time around he had taken a left on Columbus Parkway. The same standards used in rural Sonoma.

When I had driven on Franz Valley Road, I tried to find a location on the left side of the road where bodies were found. All I could remember is a scenic remote drive with meadowlands on each side then began scanning for a blind curve on Franz on one side, and across the narrow road -a stretch of wire fence. The surrounding areas were lodged inside a forest with manzanita trees leading down a ravine. On a spring day in 1993, I pulled over the side of Franz Valley Road onto a area where I believed the Santa Rosa killer had tossed the bodies of girls off a embankment. At that time, my resources was the yellow Robert Graysmith ZODIAC book, a map of Santa Rosa, and a copy of a newspaper article; all would serve me as the only materials to be helpful. Oblivious, I was not informed the precious locations of the sites were not mentioned anywhere. In the years following 1972, a subsequent change of the road where Kim Wendy Allen was supposedly found had been near Enterprise Road, when in fact she was found on off a Grange Road creek bed.

Upon reaching my destination I pulled over to the side of Franz Valley where I parked just off the road pavement. I then climbed out of the drivers side of my car and viewed the location below on the embankment where Maureen Sterling, Yvonne Weber and Carolyn Nadine Davis were found almost side by side. An eerie discovery that would haunt those who discovered them. I climbed down literally a hill from the roadside until I reached a creek. I reminded myself of how Zodiac operated his method of attacks near water. Without a camera, I quickly pulled out my sketch pad and drew the area. I found a few spine chilling parallels between the element of water and Zodiac:

Zodiac always attacked near water and roads named after water

Zodiac suspect named George had a last name of water

Zodiac suspect Arthur Leigh Allen was a Sagittarius, a water symbol, and was in the navy

And there were also things I was reminded of between comparison and indifferences between Santa Rosa,suspect Arthur Leigh Allen, and Zodiac

Zodiac - no sexual molestation

no sexual assault

aforethought-"quick kill"

leaving victims to die on spot-no transporting either of his victims

taunt police

sexual sadist?

compulsive braggart

heterosexual relationships-platonic

did no prolong in any torture

used various weapons

November 9,1969 missive: "collect slaves for afterlife"

All victims had no acknowledgement of their assailant

Arthur Leigh Allen-
sexual deviant

child molestor-pedophile

detested police

profile as that of a sexual sadist

compulsive braggart; drew attention to himself as nothing prompted was warranted.

pornography,s&m, sexually aroused on hearing the screams of children being spanked

incapable of heterosexual relationship

may of known most of the Santa Rosa victims

Allen lived in center geographical of where all the victims were hitchhiking last seen and found

very knowledgable with weapons; bomb making material found at his Vallejo home

traces of chipmunk hair fibers were found in the car of Allen; the same kind compared to those found on Kim and some of the other victims

while suspect was incarcerated at Atascadero State Hospital, the hitchhiking murders came to a halt; no letters from Zodiac after May 1974 were sent to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Santa Rosa hitchhiking killer-

At Santa Rosa, victims were subjected to prolong torture

At Santa Rosa, clothesline or cord were used to bind victims; strangulation

occult symbol found; afterlife. Franz Valley Road, this occult sign means "transporting the deceased into afterlife

victims at Santa Rosa were all females, two were college co-eds. Some were residents of Santa Rosa. Only two victims had been living out of the area. All were hitchhikers.

reports of possible sexual assault; unlikely a Zodiac modius operandi

no semen or foreign objects were found in the female genitals

A unconfirmed story of Zodiac suspect,[Footnote 3]-Allen,was supposedly seen walking away from a processing crime scene in Sonoma during one incident. This happened when Sonoma County sheriff investigators were sealing off a area where a killer dumped a body. Allen said, "I travel this road to go skin diving." This amusing incident is found in both books ZODIAC and ZODIAC UNMASKED. Had this been checked out for any validity to it, two things are peculiar

Arthur Leigh Allen told investigators he was traveling on this road(not listed) to go out skin diving. If true, then Allen’s suspicious whereabouts lead him into warranted trouble with the law. This location where Allen was sighted in rural Sonoma is not even close to an geograhical location where he could skin dive. There are creeks along the side of the areas where the bodies were found.

Investigators would of held Allen for question on why he was walking away from a crime scene. There would be no room for them to let him slip by; he may of contaminated the site, though no evidence was traced to him or any other suspect.

All I realized upon driving on rural Sonoma was the names of the roads named after water: Porter Creek Road, Calistoga Road, Mark West Creek. Water,water everywhere. Zodiac was either leaving behind a vital clue to his method in Santa Rosa had he been the killer, or somebody else was duplicating of being a copycat that is more horrifying. Years later, I would learn there more than 130 leads and suspects in the murders of 40 slayings in California, Utah, Washington, and Colorado. Ted Bundy was responsible for many of those murders, while the other murders in California remains unsolved. Here is a 1975 UPI headline I found last year:

[Footnote 4]-

40 slayings in 4 Western States link to ’Zodiac’?

Santa Rosa,Calif - UPI-
Authorities in four western states are rechecking the slayings of some 40

young women for clues that would link them to the "Zodiac Killer" who

police think is seeking slaves for his afterlife.

The so-called Zodiac killer began using cryptic notes to a San Francisco

newspaper in 1968 to announce murders. He said he had killed 37 persons

in California, but police confirmed only six. He had not been heard

from in four years.

In Santa Rosa, 45 miles north of San Francisco, Sonoma County Sheriff

Don Striepeke said yesterday an Ancient English witchcraft sign

found at a remote site where the bodies of three women were found

indicated the Zodiac stalker was the slayer. A further check, he said led him

to believe Zodiac also murdered women in Utah, Washington, Colorado.

One of Striepeke’s detective, Erwin Carlstedt said the killer may

be choosing murder sites to trace out a giant "Z" across the

western United States.

Striepeke and Carlstedt said they developed their theory

after studying the deaths of six girls killed in Sonoma County over a

period of two years and a Seattle case in which the remains of seven

young women were found.

The killer of the girls in Sonoma County left a note

saying the victims were "slaves I will collect for my afterlife",

Striepeke said.

© 2009 sleepparalysis/obe.

1 & 2- "Young women cases most troubling", March 5,1989 by Randi Rossmann; Santa Rosa Press-Democrat.

3- page 277,Zodiac page 132. Zodiac Unmasked by Robert Graysmith

4- "40 slayings in 4 Western States linked to ’Zodiac’? UPI, April 24,1975;Columbus-Telegram

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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:40 pm

About the first supposed Zodiac victim:

THEY WENT AHEAD and made a movie about the Zodiac and Paul Avery. It wasn't easy. After 30 years, the serial murderer’s identity is still a matter of guesswork.
As for the late Chronicle reporter, his discontinuity from convention must have confused director David Fincher. The script for “Zodiac” depicts Paul as an investigative tosspot and not, more accurately, as an obsessive maverick and relentless newspaper reporter.
Given the short-term memory of the newspaper business (who was “Herb Caen” anyway?), today’s journalistic moviegoers might naturally assume that failure to track down the cryptic killer of 1966-1968 would seem to stand as the most frustrating disappointment in Paul’s long career of extraordinary achievements. Perhaps. But he never forgot about Judy.
In the next decade, Paul (at right) would have the satisfaction of closure in the 1974 kidnap and transformation of Patty Hearst. With Vin McClellan, he would cap off his coverage with “The Voices of Guns,” a superb book on the Symbionese Liberation Army and its prize hostage.
He never wrote a book about the now-forgotten case of Judy Williamson.
Nevertheless, her disappearance led to his first shot at the Big Story, the name of a once-popular radio and TV series (1949-1958). For three weeks in November 1963, the face of the 18-year-old student dominated the Bay Area's front pages. Then she was all but erased from public memory. Forgotten. Except, of course, by Paul. More than 30 years later, as he sipped Jim Beam in the M&M bar, he told a friend he could still remember her innocent young face.

JUDY'S PHOTO appeared on the front page of the Chronicle on Nov. 1, 1963. It was a picture worth ten thousand street sales. Hers was a face that launched a thousand scoops. Some were accurate.
Then an ambitious, straight-arrow crime writer, Paul was dispatched by the Chronicle city desk to the unobtrusive East Bay suburb of Albany. For no apparent reason, the public couldn’t get enough news, or non-news, about the mysterious disappearance of Judith Gail Williamson as she walked to the bus that would take her to her first-year classes at UC Berkeley.
Newsracks emptied every day for weeks in what would be the final epic battle in the Bay Area’s storied history of newspaper rivalry. Of course, nobody knew at the time that the Examiner vs. Chronicle circulation wars were about to end in an ugly betrayal of the troops.
In less than a decade, the Chronicle had climbed from third to first place in daily circulation in San Francisco and Northern California. In 1960, it passed the long-dominant Examiner while publishing outdoors writer Bud Boyd’s fake but entertaining “Last Man on Earth” series.
Fresh in the memory of circulation managers in 1963 was the 1955 abduction and murder of 14-year-old Stephanie Bryan, an unfortunate Berkeley girl whose three-month disappearance sold papers by the wagonload.
Sales jumped even higher when the Examiner’s resident Pulitzer Prize winner, Ed Montgomery, drove about 300 miles north of Berkeley to Trinity County. He hired a local dog handler. Followed up a hill by photographer Bob Bryant, the hounds discovered the girl’s foot protruding from the dirt. It was about 100 yards from a mountain cabin owned by Burton Abbott, 28, of Alameda. She had been beaten, strangled and buried on a nearby hill. (Consult an outstanding true-crime book, “Shallow Grave in Trinity County” by the late Harry Farrell, written in 1997 after he retired from the San Jose Mercury.)
Bud Abbott, protesting to the end, was convicted and eventually executed in an endless spate of 120-point headlines.

AT THE EXAMINER'S city desk, eager to cover the story and conscious of heavy pressure to recapture the lead in sales, Judy’s disappearance must have seemed like a Stephanie replay. Ed Montgomery was meeting privately with Police Chief Ralph Jensen by the time the Chronicle team arrived in Albany, waiting impatiently with the other reporters in an improvised pressroom.
Infuriated, Paul was determined to out-scoop Ed. But the stakes were much bigger for the proprietors of the Examiner and Chronicle.
Everybody knew that the leader in daily circulation gets the bulk of national advertising and, almost as important, the respectful attention of politicians and business leaders in the days when newspapers reigned.
What nobody knew was how the Chronicle’s slight edge in circulation gave publisher Charles Thieriot a big edge in supersecret negotiations that same month.
As the reporters and editors fought for scoops, their bosses decided to change the historic duel of the Examiner vs. Chronicle into a board game. Monopoly. (It took two more years to work out the moves.)
The merger talks at the time weren't revealed to Paul or anybody without a key to the corporate boardrooms. Instead, the fight over circulation intensified.
The Bay Area’s dailies shrilled with banner headlines every single day over breathless non-stories now remembered as pointless, meaningless and cynically tawdry.

WHEN PAUL arrived in the old bungalow that then housed the tiny Albany Police Department, he was an up-and-coming 29-year-old with a reputation as a demon reporter during four years at the Chronicle. Shorthaired, clean-shaven and fragrant with Old Spice, he wore a dark suit and a knitted Ernst wool tie. It was neatly knotted and, like its owner, fashionably narrow. Paul didn’t wear a hat; that was for older guys. As he introduced himself, he said he lived in a Novato tract home with his little family. For all we know, he voted Republican.
Paul had moved around as a kid in a Navy family, and that was how he began his newspaper career at the age of 20. He covered the news from Vicksburg to Victoria (Texas), to Anchorage, Honolulu and San Luis Obispo before arriving at 901 Mission St., a seasoned journeyman at age 24.
Fellow reporter Duffy Jennings remembered the old Paul was “not above a little skulduggery to beat a competitor to an exclusive or usurp someone else's turf.” Duffy said pipe-smoking Charley Howe, a Chron writer uncomfortable with aggressive scoopery, wasn't nearly so polite about Paul. He called him “Unsavory Avery.”
To the Chronicle's longtime city editor, Abe Mellinkoff, the relentlessly resourceful Paul was the logical choice to get the inside story of a very pretty girl who vanished soon after dawn on what was otherwise a normal autumn day. All the police knew was that Judy Williamson said goodbye to her mother, put on a black cardigan, picked up a white umbrella, packed her textbooks and left for class at about 7 a.m. on Oct. 29, 1963. From her home on Albany Hill, she walked down Castro Street toward San Pablo Avenue and the bus that would take her to Berkeley. Someone later recalled that a white convertible was “creeping” along San Pablo Avenue.
She never boarded the bus.

THE BUNGALOWS PRESS ROOM soon became a daily two-shift stakeout for Paul, his Chronicle colleagues and bored reporters from the Examiner, Oakland Tribune, News-Call Bulletin, Berkeley Daily Gazette, Richmond Independent and both wire services. They mingled in a journalistic caucus of bulky television cameras, Speed-Graphics and news-radio microphones.
They stood back when Montgomery strode into the press room. A tall man, he resembled an FBI agent with his brown suit, eyeglasses and the fedora that rarely left his head. Winner of a Pulitzer in 1951 for exposés of tax frauds, he left note-taking to others. Instead, as Paul would later discover, Chief Jensen had promised that Ed would get the scoops, if any, before anybody else.
A few discoveries kept the story on the front pages every day. Judy’s textbooks, stained with blood, were found in a campus trashcan at Sather Gate. Blood had pooled under parked cars in a student garage near the campus. Judy’s white umbrella turned up in a trashcan at an El Cerrito shopping center. Someone reported that a man and woman had appeared to be struggling that morning inside a white convertible on hilly Fish Ranch Road.
Paul worked hard, sharing bylines with a rewrite man of uncommon elegance and bedrock cynicism, George Draper (a once-idealistic volunteer with the Abraham Lincoln Brigade).The Sunday Chronicle, which was still lagging in circulation behind the Dick Tracy-wrapped Sunday Examiner, came out one week with a Draper-Avery banner story that smirked over reports that Judy was, or had been, a “party girl.”
Paul interviewed Judy’s doctor. Years later, he said the doctor had tried to rebut the “party girl” allegation by letting slip a medical observation that was supposed to be confidential information. In a Draper-Avery party-girl sequel, the Chronicle hit bottom the next Sunday with a 120-point front-page headline. It proclaimed exclusively that the missing coed was a virgin.

In the meantime, Paul learned from Albany’s two detectives that the police chief had found a very likely suspect. He owned a white convertible. He had been dating Judy. But his lawyer wouldn’t allow him to take a lie detector test or answer questions. He was also, ahem, the son of a city councilman who had been the mayor of Albany and, as such, was the police chief’s boss.
And if that wasn't bad enough, another young suspect looked equally guilty. Jensen was silent. So was Ed. So was Paul.
Nonetheless, screamer headlines continued for three weeks, news or no news. It was counterpoint to the argument that newspaper journalism was a lot better in the competitive days of yesteryear.
And then, on a November day, bells on the teletype machines began to ring and ring and ring in the Examiner's dingy cityroom on Third Street. John F. Kennedy had been assassinated. Rich Jordan, seemingly unsentimental, began to weep. So did Jerry Belcher and John Todd.
The next day, Paul’s report on the search for Judy Williamson landed with the truss ads on Page Umpty-ump. Then the coverage vanished as completely as she. It was all but forgotten except by her parents, Chief Jensen and a greatly disappointed Paul Avery.

SAN FRANCISCO'S great reporters of the scoop era also included Charles Raudebaugh, Mary Crawford, George Murphy, Bill Boldenweck, Baron Muller, Jerry Belcher, Ernie Lenn, Bill O’Brien, Hadley Roff and on-deadline rewrite wizards like Jane Eshleman Conant, Hu Bernhard, Andy Curtin, Dan Frishman, Carolyn Anspacher and George Draper.
With Royal typewriters and No. 2 pencils as their weapons, these combatants were double-crossed on the Labor Day weekend in 1965. At the Examiner, sledgehammers broke through the brick walls of the composing room on Third Street. Cranes hoisted the Linotype machines into waiting trucks. The presses were dismantled. The stunned weekend crew was packed off to the News-Call Bulletin plant on Howard Street, where the picture of crusading editor Fremont Older was soon taken down and never seen again. The News- Call appeared with a never-say-die headline, something like “The Examiner Joins Us in the Afternoon Field.” And died.
It was a fait accompli. A Chronicle-Examiner joint agency had taken over the non-editorial functions of the Monarch of the Dailies and the Voice of the West in what, in effect, was a business monopoly. The News-Call plant soon became a parking lot and, more than 30 years later, the site of the third piece in the Moscone convention complex. The staff was merged with the Examiner’s. In the merged Sunday paper, the Examiner news and sports sections were combined in a hybrid mess with the Chronicle’s arts and feature sections. Layoffs were decreed on the basis of seniority, which insured a newsroom of graying men. The Examiner editorial departments soon moved to an annex of the Chronicle Building to share the same composing room, advertising departments, circulation manager and presses. To the Chronicle, the Joint Operating Agreement would mean life in the morning; to the Examiner, death in the afternoon.

THREE YEARS LATER, two woodcarvers drove to a remote ravine in the Santa Cruz Mountains. They hoped to find redwood burls. They found Judy's bones. Her breastbone had been pierced. So had the black cardigan, with 15 tears in the fabric. A paring knife was found nearby. A resident on the unpaved one-lane road belatedly reported seeing a white convertible on the day Judy vanished.
Ho hum. The discovery barely made the front pages. Cults, drugs and the Pied Pipers of the weed-and-acid culture had come in mid-decade to the years now romanticized as The Sixties. By 1966, police in the Bay Area were benumbed by distressed parents searching for hundreds, if not thousands, of runaways, teenage dropouts, Moonie recruits and flower children.
In the meantime, the Chronicle and Examiner's journalists continued to compete, but after the 1965 merger it wasn't the same. Besides, they had too much to cover. If the Sixties had their share of banners, the Seventies never calmed down. Here's a summary of the more sensational events in the Bay Area, thanks to former Chron reporter Duffy Jennings:
The short list included the shocking Patty Hearst kidnapping, Hibernia bank robbery, Symbionese Liberation Army manhunt and L.A. shootout; the random Zebra murders on the streets of San Francisco; the San Rafael courthouse shootout and murder of Judge Harold Haley; the Golden Dragon restaurant massacre in Chinatown; the mass murder and suicides of more than 900 people – mostly from the Bay Area – in Jonestown, Guyana, and the killing there of local Rep. Leo Ryan and four others, including Examiner photographer Greg Robinson; the City Hall assassinations of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk; and the subsequent murder trial of Supervisor Dan White and its riotous aftermath. Hardened reporters, including combat veterans and others who had seen more than their share of human tragedy, marveled at the relentless magnitude of it all and wondered what else could possibly happen next.

The front-page decade also brought us the Olympic killings, D.B. Cooper, Watergate, the Vietnam debacle, Nixon's resignation, Pol Pot, Three-Mile Island, Iran hostages, the Trailside Killer. And buried under the fold was a short news story about a man named Joseph Otto Ebenberger Jr., the son of the ex-mayor of Albany.

FOR PAUL, the decade that defined his career began in 1966, three years after Judy’s disappearance. He knew Judy’s killer was still out there, but by then Paul was preoccupied with six unsolved Zodiac murders and the killer’s taunting cryptograms. His investigations proved no more successful than his search for Judy. Paul had rejoined the Chronicle after excursions as a correspondent covering the Vietnam War. He no longer looked like an insurance salesman. He lived for a time on a houseboat in Sausalito, first stop for many a divorced man.
His struggle with bourbon whisky led to another exit from the Chronicle. Years later, former Chronicle editorial cartoonist Robert Graysmith would review the evidence, guess at the identity of the Zodiac (now presumed dead) and make Paul a central character in the book that came out in 1986, The movie opened in 2007.

THE EX-MAYOR'S SON turned himself in to Oakland police in November 1977 and confessed to the murder of Judy Williamson. Her schoolmate at Albany High School and at UC Berkeley, he was described as “a brilliant student.” He had sometimes driven her to the university. According to his testimony, she had resisted his vows of love that turned into deadly anger on that day 14 years before. Convinced by his lawyer to plead not guilty despite his confession, he was convicted of second-degree murder, sentenced to five-to-life and eventually set free to live with his conscience.
The stories appeared on inside pages.
Also frustrated by the Judy Williamson case was Ed Montgomery. He badly needed another Stephanie Bryan triumph to soften criticisms that he spent most of the 1960s in chasing Reds under the beds of anti-war organizers and civil rights demonstrators.
In due course, critics managed to paste an imaginary asterisk next to the phenomenal record of scoops by Ed Montgomery.
Snooping through the warehouse of once-secret files and memos left by J. Edgar Hoover, historians and biographers had discovered that the FBI chief had more to hide than a closet stocked with high-heeled shoes.
Hoover encouraged his minions to leak hot tips to favorite reporters, often by undercutting local police departments and giving credit to the FBI. On at least one occason, Ed submitted a draft of a story for Hoover's approval but told nobody, because that would break a lot of rules.
In return for scoops, he would adorn the Examiner with occasional guilt-by-association stories intended to discredit liberals and civil rights activists with alleged links to Communists. The McCarthyist embarrassments ended when Hoover died in 1972. Ed retired in 1975, two years before Ebenberger talked to the police and 20 years before Ed’s death.

BY THEN, Paul had other concerns. We last saw him in the M&M bar eight years ago. An enormously popular newspaperman with stints at the Chronicle, the Sacramento Bee and the Examiner, Paul was highly regarded for his investigative skills, his loyalty to his colleagues and his genial scorn at self-important big shots. He hadn't worn a suit in many years. He drank too much. He had a smoking problem, and it wasn’t just tobacco. For years he lived in and out of a jointly occupied house – a kind of a commune just around the corner from Muir Woods in Franks Valley. His steady lover was Margo St. James, a writer who years before had briefly worked as a prostitute. She later founded and promoted an association for unapologetic sex workers.
His last job was at the Examiner. Bad lungs forced him to retire.
On that day in the saloon, he was drinking bourbon-and-water. Under the table was his oxygen tank. A breathing tube was supposed to help him with his emphysema. Instead, the nose clip was shunted to the side so he could – ye gads! – smoke his deadly Lucky Strikes.
He wanted to sip his drink, tell stories, laugh at jokes and, in the lyrics made famous by Phil Harris, smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette!
He soon moved to the home of a daughter in Puget Sound. He died of emphysema in 2000, the year when the San Francisco Monopoly game turned upside down. The heirs of Michael and Charles de Young sold the Chronicle to the heirs and corporate descendants of William R. Hearst the First. Coldly, Hearstlings then sold the Examiner, WRH’s first paper, to the Fang family, who later sold it to right-wing zillionaire Phillip Anschutz, who will probably trade it for deeds to Park Place, Marvin Gardens and a get-out-of-jail-free card.
It was the year of the millennium. Paul was 66. Judy Williamson would have been 55. Nobody has yet made a movie about her or the last of the great scarehead wars.

– Lynn Ludlow

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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:02 pm

Quote from Zodackiller.com:

Her father, Stanley, a civilian employee at
Alameda Naval Air Station, and her mother, Clara,
were unaware of the grisly discovery of their only
child in the canyon.

(Judith Gail Williamsons father)

http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/opzv/810.html

Joseph Otto Ebenberger, Jr., turned himself in late November, 1977. He pleaded not guilty, was convicted of 2nd degree murder and sentenced to five to life. (He was the unnamed suspect who had the car with tire which matched the tread marks found in the blood found in the UC parking garage. His father was mayor of Albany, CA, at the time.)
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:05 pm

Azazel wrote:
Quote from Zodackiller.com:

Her father, Stanley, a civilian employee at
Alameda Naval Air Station, and her mother, Clara,
were unaware of the grisly discovery of their only
child in the canyon.

(Judith Gail Williamsons father)

http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/opzv/810.html

Joseph Otto Ebenberger, Jr., turned himself in late November, 1977. He pleaded not guilty, was convicted of 2nd degree murder and sentenced to five to life. (He was the unnamed suspect who had the car with tire which matched the tread marks found in the blood found in the UC parking garage. His father was mayor of Albany, CA, at the time.)

I remember reading about the mayor's son turning himself in. Judy Williamson's murder looked like she could be a Z victim...good thing he turned himself in. As far as the other stuff you posted,SEAGULL is the one to clear up what is of importance and what is not regarding SONOMA COUNTY stuff
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PostSubject: Re: SONOMA COUNTY   Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:44 pm

Here is another Sonoma County murder that I Iearned about from an article Roland sent me. There was just a mention of the murder among many others so I went to Santa Rosa and was able to find two articles. I've also included an article from the Hayward paper.

The victim's name is Susan Dye, she was 19 years old at the time of her death.

Press Democrat
Santa Rosa CA

Fri. Oct. 17, 1975

Asti- The fully clothed body of a young woman was found under the Highway 101 freeway overpass on Dutcher Creek Road around 8 p.m. yesterday.

Sheriff Don Streipeke said a preliminary autopsy performed last night indicates the woman may have died of manual strangulation.

He said there were no bruises on her body to indicate she struggled extensively prior to her death, which occurred within approximately one hour of the time her body was discovered.

The body was found under the freeway, eliminating the possibility it had been thrown from a car stopped above. Streipeke said the young woman's hands apparently had been tied but there were no signs she was sexually assaulted.

Approximately the same time she was found, a Cloverdale woman discovered a knapsack lying in a Cloverdale street which Streipeke said may belong to the victim.

Identification technicians are checking fingerprints on file in Sacramento as well as fingerprints recovered from a driver's license in the knapsack, to see if they match the victim's.

Asked if the slaying is connected to the deaths of six other women slain in Sonoma County under similar circumstances since 1972, Streipeke said the latest homicide victim did not appear to have been killed by the same person.

He said the differences are the latest victim was found fully clothed near a major highway, and a knapsack possibly containing her identification was found nearby, whereas the bodies of the six homicide victims were discovered in remote areas, down steep embankments and no identification or clothing has ever been found for any of them.

Streipeke said the latest victim had apparently eaten within an hour before she was slain.

He described her as white, five feet tall, 18 to 20 years old, 115 pounds, with long brown hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a blue ski type long sleeved sweater with a white stripe around the shoulders, black faded denim pants, laced black hiking boots with waffle soles.

She also had two rings on her right hand, one white metal with three green stones and the other plain white metal. She had two yellow metal earrings in her pierced ears and also wore a white metal choker type necklace with colored beads in it.

Steipeke asked anyone having seen a woman matching the description eating in a restaurant or hitchhiking in Sonoma County yesterday to contact his office immediately.

She is the 23rd homicide victim this year.

Press Democrat
Sunday Oct. 19, 1975

Murder Victim Is Santa Clara Girl

The body of a young woman found under the Dutcher Creek overpass at Asti has been identified as Susan Lorie Dye, a 19-year-old Santa Clara girl.

Sheriff's officials said she was apparently hitchhiking south on Highway 101 heading home when she was strangled to death.

A dog believed to belong to her, was found at a Cloverdale school. A short rope around the animal's neck matched a portion of rope found on a backpack belonging to the victim. The backpack was found on a Cloverdale street around the same time the body was discovered at 8 p.m. Thursday.

Sheriff Don Streipeke said he had several detectives in Cloverdale and Healdsburg Friday questioning people who may have seen the young girl.

Miss Dye was killed approximately an hour prior to the time her body was found and Streipeke said she apparently ate about an hour before that.

He asked anyone who saw her in a restaurant or hitchhiking to contact his office.

The girl is Sonoma County's 23rd homicide victim of the year.

When found her body was fully clothed.

Although she had apparently been tied, Streipeke said her body showed no signs of having been sexually assaulted and there was no evidence she put up a struggle with her killer.

He also said there was nothing to indicate her death was connected to the deaths of six other young women who have been killed in Sonoma County since 1972.

Miss Dye was identified through her driver's license in the backpack found in Cloverdale which enabled technicians to match her fingerprints with files in Sacramento.

Her parents contacted by Santa Clara County officials came up Friday to confirm the identification.

The Daily Review
Hayward CA
Monday Oct. 20, 1975

Death Victim Identified

Santa Rosa (UPI)- A young hitchhiker apparently strangled by someone who gave her a ride has been identified as Susan Lorie Dye, 19, Santa Clara.


Sonoma County Sheriff's deputies said Sunday they discovered her identity from papers found in a backpack in Cloverdale. Miss Dye's body was found at a freeway overpass near Asti Thursday night by a passing motorist.

Deputies said she had been seeking a ride home on Highway 101 and that her killer had apparently given her a lift.

The slaying was the county's 23 of the year.
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Susan L Dye
Born- March 11, 1956
Santa Clara County
Mother's Maiden Name-Currier
Died- Oct.16, 1975
Sonoma County

FYI, Cloverdale is at the north end of Sonoma County very near the Mendocino County line. Asti is just a few miles south of Cloverdale on Highway 101.
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