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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:05 pm

It's the same guy from the thread on Tom's board, all right. The thread's pretty long, but I'll see what I can do to repost the relevant information if you guys wish. Bottom line is this isn't just a game of Chinese whispers. MZ and his bizarre behavior have been independently verified by some of the finer minds at Zodiackiller.com. A lot about him lines up with what Zodiac may have been like. There is no indication that he's been looked into by LE, and he is still alive and kicking.

Too young? I still think Zodiac was at the younger end of the age range, here. Broadcasting his plans to kill years before? Look at Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. They practically told the whole world they were going to shoot up Columbine, but nothing was done to nip them in the bud. People who knew about him surely must have said something? It's called the bystander effect. Incredible, I know, but sometimes nobody gives a damn.

He's up there with the most compelling of them. Best suspect yet.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:36 pm

Again, one big problem here...can he be placed in Northern CA in the late 60's? I know Bentley said that Foriegner wasnt able to do it using her ancestry skills, no addresses, or family there.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:34 am

I should qualify that. It's been awhile and I was removed from zk.com, don't know if TF ever made any additional progress on MZ.

Around that time I submitted a request to the National Archives for military records and was told there were no records for him, however I was also told it did not necessarily mean he was never in the military.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:51 am

This thread is totally fascinating. Has anyone cked with LE to see if this guy was ever cked out?
I hope you guys can dig up and post as much as you can find. Maybe links from the other sites, IF they have the goods. Where is this guy now, and what is he doing? Very curious, indeed...
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:19 am

He's retired, Zam - used to be a security guard. As I've mentioned previously, there appears to be no evidence whatsoever that LE so much as looked at him.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:23 am

There is a man with the same name as this POI (different middle initial) that was born 20 years after this POI. A son? Not sure, but this man that is 20 years younger with the same name has used addresses in SAN FRANCISCO, BERKELEY, and PLEASANTON over the years. I would hope that Foreigner already looked at that guy to see if he was his son. Perhaps, his son lived in Northern CA, and this POI went up to visit him?

This POI truly has one of the most unusual last names you will find. A simple search of his last name shows pretty much all people with that name living in Southern CA
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:54 am

Good thread, IMHO. There are too many unanswered questions about the "PHS Zodiac" including whether or not the Patricia Hautz letter has anything to do with Zodiac and whether the correct Patricia Hautz was located in San Bernardino. I honestly take any anecdotal reports about his behavior with a grain of salt but, that said, ANYONE who assumed a persona of "Zodiac" in 1964 to the point that someone felt the need to write in his nickname in the high school yearbook is clearly of interest.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:03 pm

If you look at the signature on the Bates letter it actually contains all three letters. Small M, Big L (incorporated in the Z) and big Z.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:36 pm

I wanted to post the following articles.....I am going to try and update this quickly. Read thru this, and see what stands out. I am trying to confirm a conclusion to this case. Like in the Domingos/Edwards case, there was an arrest(s) made, but I dont know if the arrest(s) stuck. Two separate and unrelated arrests were made in the case. Robert Stewart & Robert Laflin were the two arrested, Laflin in 1965, and Stewart in 1968 I think. But I cant find any conclusion....yet




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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:55 pm

morf13 wrote:
I wanted to post the following articles.....I am going to try and update this quickly. Read thru this, and see what stands out. I am trying to confirm a conclusion to this case. Like in the Domingos/Edwards case, there was an arrest(s) made, but I dont know if the arrest(s) stuck. Two separate and unrelated arrests were made in the case. Robert Stewart & Robert Laflin were the two arrested, Laflin in 1965, and Stewart in 1968 I think. But I cant find any conclusion....yet



This case remains OPEN & UNSOLVED! There is actually a movie about it (not to be confused with the other cabin murders)



http://www.oxygenlaw.com/SueMorse-Boles.html


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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:58 pm

FBI Lab Reports: On September 3, 1965, the report from the FBI Laboratory in Washington, DC arrived indicating that the bullets used in the murder were .22 caliber Long or Long Rifle, manufactured by the Federal Cartridge Company of Minneapolis, Minnesota. The cartridge cases found at the murder scene bore sufficient firing pin, extractor and ejector marks to identify them as having been fired from an autoloading pistol made either by the High Standard Manufacturing Company or the Hartford Arms and Equipment Company, which had been purchased by High Standard in 1932.
COURTESY OF: http://www.crestlinecourier-news.com/articles/2004/01/29/news/features/feature1.prt

Compare that to the LHR weapon, in which a JC HIGGINS or HIGH STANDARD .22 was used, along with long rifle cartridges. ALso, compare to Domingos/Edwards twists & lines in the bullets
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PostSubject: HUGHES AIRCRAFT   Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:43 pm

So, my POI has led me in strange places, and one of them is noted satanist and scientist, Jack Parsons, who also worked for Hughes Aircraft in the early 1950's. Maybe the Boles murders were much more than random murders. In any case, you may find this is interesting reading...

Jack Parsons & The Curious Origins of the American Space Program
by The Magician
Part 14: The Tyranny of the Black Brotherhood
I had gathered a few things through Renny. The Jack Parsons Memorial Society ran an archive and lending library out of an old mansion near South Orange Grove. It turned out that The Book of the Antichrist, a copy of which Sheri had faxed me at the Hilton, was followed by Parsons' The Manifesto of the Antichrist. I had collected a copy of this, and copies of some related O.T.O. materials.

It was late in the afternoon on a warm and smoggy Pasadena day, and I decided to take the copies with me, and head for the park over in San Marino. In the hotel closet, I found an extra quilt, and I carried it with me out to the car. When I arrived at the park, I found a relatively secluded space, and spread the quilt over the grass in the shade of a tree. Much better. Now I could concentrate again.

My thinking was this: if Parsons thought he was the Antichrist, then he would undertake actions consistent with whatever it was the Antichrist was supposed to do. These activities were sure to stir up antagonism, even fanaticism, considering we were talking about the Big Bad Antichrist here. And Parsons was no ordinary Antichrist. This Antichrist was an explosives expert.

True, one coworker had described Parsons as the kindest man he had known. And von Karman had called him "an excellent chemist, and a delightful screwball" and noted he loved to recite pagan poetry to the sky while stamping his feet. It seemed evident that Parsons was liked by colleagues as well as the ladies. But that wasn't the point. The point was that now Parsons was getting political. He was no longer content just to discuss "fortune telling"--as he had so quaintly described his occult activities to the Pasadena police- -in private. No. Now he was writing manifestos and declaring war. I wanted to get an idea who would have felt threatened by Parsons.

First, the Manifesto. I followed my standard practice: Read all the way through. Then go back and focus on details.


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THE MANIFESTO OF THE ANTICHRIST

by Jack Parsons

I, BELARION, ANTICHRIST, in the year 1949 of the rule of the Black Brotherhood called Christianity, do make my Manifesto to all men. And I, THE ANTICHRIST, come among you, saying:

An end to the pretense, and lying hypocrisy of Christianity.

An end to the servile virtues, and superstitious restrictions. An end to the slave morality.

An end to prudery and shame, to guilt and sin, for these are of the only evil under the Sun, that is fear.

An end to all authority that is not based on courage and manhood, to the authority of lying priests, conniving judges, blackmailing police, and

An end to the servile flattery and cajolery of mobs, the coronations of mediocrities, the ascension of dolts.

An end to restriction and inhibition, for I, THE ANTICHRIST, am come among you preaching the Word of the BEAST 666, which is, "There is no Law beyond Do What Thou Wilt."

And I BELARION, ANTICHRIST, do lift up my voice and prophesy, and I say:

I shall bring all men to the Law of the BEAST 666, and in His Law I shall conquer the world.

And within seven years of this time, BABALON, THE SCARLET WOMAN HILARION will manifest among ye, and bring this my work to its fruition.

An end to conscription, compulsion, regimentation, and the tyranny of false laws.

And within nine years a nation shall accept the Law of the BEAST 666 in my name, and that nation will be the first nation of earth.

And all who accept me, the ANTICHRIST, and the Law of the BEAST 666, shall be accursed and their joy shall be a thousand fold greater than the false joys of the false saints.

In the name BELARION shall they work miracles, and confound our enemies, and none shall stand before us.

Therefore I, THE ANTICHRIST, call upon all the Chosen and elect and upon all men, come forth now in the name of

Liberty, that we may end for ever the tyranny of the Black Brotherhood.

Witness by my hand and seal on this day of 1949, that is the year of BABALON 4066.


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What a couple of weird names: Belarion and Hilarion. It sounded like a vaudeville couple. Maybe Parsons was going mad, as John Symonds had alleged. All this making of pronouncements and proclamation of laws to be followed. However, it was hard not to like a lot of what Parsons was saying.

No matter what Parsons called himself, who wanted to be on the side of "lying priests, conniving judges, blackmailing police"? Who wanted to defend the "tyranny of false laws"? This was dangerous stuff. Parsons was attacking the established order, fraught as it was with corruption, and papered over as it was with fake religion.

How would the U.S. government react to all this? Not well, I suspected. I looked through some of the other papers and found a statement from a Agape Lodge member in 1940 that Parsons traveled "under sealed orders from the government". But in 1948 he temporarily lost his security clearance due to the charge that his membership in a "sex cult" was subversive. After a closed court hearing, the charges were dismissed in April 1949, and his security clearance reinstated.

But in September 1950 he lost his job at Hughes Aircraft because he was in possession of classified documents. Some of these, however, were ones from his Cal Tech days, papers of which he was a co-author. Parsons argued that he was in the process of trying to convince the Israeli government to build a jet- propulsion laboratory and factory, and was using the documents only for background information. The Justice Department decided there were insufficient grounds for prosecution. But the Appeals Board was not amused, and withdrew his security clearance in January 1952.

So. The Antichrist wanted to build missiles for Israel. I tried to put this in perspective. Laying on my stomach on the quilt, I sketched out a brief chronology of Parsons' life, as I now understood it, in my notebook.

Oct 2, 1914: Parsons' birth.

1928: Jack Parsons, age 13, invokes "Satan" but reacts with "cowardice when He appear[s]."

1936: Parsons, age 21, shows up with his friend Ed Forman at Cal Tech wanting to build space rockets, something they have been working on for years. The GALCIT project is initiated under Theodore von Karman, with Frank Malina, Jack Parsons, and Ed Forman initially the key individuals. Money is always an issue, and Parsons and Forman later take jobs with the Halifax Powder Company in the Mojave desert.

1938: The Army Air Corps becomes interested in the research. Hap Arnold appears at the GALCIT laboratory in Pasadena wanting to know if rocket research could help him with the problem of air strips which were too short for takeoff of modern military planes.

1939: Parsons and his wife Helen (Northrup) join the Los Angeles (Pasadena) branch of Crowley's O.T.O. This group is known as the Agape Lodge, and is headed by Wilfred Smith. Smith and his wife have an innovative way of recruiting members via sexual seduction, according to member Louis T. Culling.

1940: The Army Air Corps takes over sponsorship of the GALCIT project. Parsons spends most of his time developing jet-assisted takeoff (JATO) units. Most of the JATO patents are in Parsons name. December: Jane Wolfe, a Crowley associate who is a member of the Agape Lodge, writes in her diary that Parsons travels "under sealed orders from the government." She also says she believes Parsons will be the future leader of the order.

March 1941: The head of the Agape Lodge, Wilfred Smith, writes Crowley that he had "at long last a really excellent man, John Parsons. And starting next Tuesday he begins a course of talks with a view to enlarging our scope."

1942: Parsons, von Karman, and others found Aerojet in order to build and sell JATO units to the Army Air Corps. Parsons leaves his position as head of solid- fuel rocket research at the Army Air Corps Jet Propulsion Research Project to take a similar position at Aerojet. March: Jane Wolfe writes Crowley: "I believe Jack Parsons--who is devoted to Wilfred--to be the coming leader." She goes on to note that he was "`sold on the Book of the Law' because it foretold Einstein, Heisenberg--whose work is not permitted in Russia--the quantum field folks, whose work is along the `factor infinite and unknown' lines, etc."

July 1943: Crowley wants to get rid of Smith and appoint Parsons head of the Lodge. But he has problems doing so, because there is a good bit of loyalty to Smith, including on the part of Parsons himself. Crowley writes an Agape Lodge member named Max Schneider: "As to Jack; I think he is perfectly alright at the bottom of everything; but he is very young . . ."

1944: Aleister Crowley expels Wilfred Smith from the OTO for turning the Agape Lodge into a "love cult". Smith leaves with Parsons' wife Helen, who had taken the place of Smith's previous mistress, Regina Kahl, as high priestess in weekly performances of the gnostic mass, in which Smith served as high priest. Crowley appoints Parsons as head of the California O.T.O. in Smith's place. Helen's sister "Betty" (as she is known around the house at 1003 S. Orange Grove) moves in with Parsons. Parsons, Theodore von Karman, and others found the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, near Devil's Gate Dam in the Arroyo Seco-- nearby the location of many of their early rocket tests.

August 1945: Parsons and Lafayette Ronald ("L. Ron") Hubbard are introduced by a science fiction illustrator named Lou Goldstone. Goldstone often visits at Parsons' place, and one day he brings Hubbard with him. Hiroshima and Nagasaki have just been devastated by atomic bombs. The world is amazed. Many people are elated. The social consequence, only seven years later, when every Pasadenan would be contemplating wearing a "colorimetric dosimeter," a chemical radiation detector, to tell who would live or die in an atomic raid, was the furthest thing from anyone's mind. Association with someone like Jack Parsons, conversant with JPL and Aerojet projects, is heady fare for Navy Lieutenant L. Ron Hubbard, on temporary leave, who is in any case eager to take up residence in a Bohemian house bustling with attractive women. After sleeping with as many of them as possible, Hubbard then creates turmoil by taking up with Betty, Parsons' own girlfriend. Parsons tolerates this (just as he had previously tolerated Smith's affair with his wife Helen) because, he says, he needs a magical partner, and he believes Hubbard can play that role.

Dec. 5, 1945: Hubbard is officially discharged from the Navy. He immediately applies for a pension, claiming various disabilities, and heads for Pasadena, where he moves in with Parsons. Betty (Sara Elizabeth Northrup) again devotes herself to Hubbard. Parsons, sans Betty, looks for a replacement, and decides to attract one through magic ritual. But Parsons has bigger things in mind also.

January 1946: January 4: Parsons and Hubbard begin work on a magic ritual to attract a Scarlet Woman, through which Parsons will conceive a Moonchild. January 15: Parsons, Betty, and Hubbard start a company called Allied Enterprises. Parsons puts up most of the money, which he has from the sale of his Aerojet stock to General Tire. January 18: Parsons and Hubbard are in the Mojave desert, when Parsons realizes the experiment has succeeded, and tells Hubbard: "It is done." He returns home and finds the artist Marjorie Cameron, on visit from New York, waiting for him. "She is describable as an air of fire type with bronze red hair, fiery and subtle, determined and obstinate, sincere and perverse, with extraordinary personality, talent and energy," Parsons wrote.

January 4 to March 4, 1946: Parsons writes an account, called The Book of Babalon, of the whole magick working. Jan 19-Feb 27: Parsons continues to invoke Babalon with the help of Hubbard. Feb 28: With Hubbard gone on a trip, Parsons, invoking Babalon by himself in the Mojave desert, receives a revelation of 77 clauses, which he calls Liber 49. He claimed it was the fourth part of the heretofore three-part Book of the Law (Crowley's revelation). This claim upsets many Agape Lodge members. March 1-3: Following the instructions in Liber 49, Parsons and Marjorie Cameron spend three days in ritual sex, with Hubbard in attendance, in an attempt to conceive a moonchild.

March 6, 1946: Parsons writes Crowley: "I am under command of extreme secrecy. I have had the most important, devastating experience of my life." He goes on to say: "I believe it was the result of the IXth degree working with the girl [Cameron] who answered my elemental summons. I have been in direct touch with One who is most holy and Beautiful as mentioned in The Book of The Law. I cannot write the name at present. First instructions were received direct through Ron the seer. I have followed them to the letter. There was a desire for incarnation. I do not know the vehicle, but it will come to me bringing a secret sign. I am to act as instructor guardian for nine months; then it will be loosed on the world. That is all I can say now . . ." Crowley was annoyed with Parsons' secrecy, and wrote back he had no idea what Parsons was talking about.

April 1946: Hubbard and Betty head to Florida with Allied Enterprise money to purchase a boat on the East Coast, to be sold on the West Coast. Parsons doesn't hear from them subsequently, because they are in fact taking a luxury vacation with Parsons' money.

July 1946: Parsons tracks Hubbard and Betty to Miami, where he discovers they have purchased three boats. He files suit in Dade County court and gets possession of two of the boats, and part of the third. Parsons then dissolves Allied Enterprises, and Parsons and Hubbard part ways. But the first boat Hubbard had acquired with Allied Enterprise money had been the Diane. Hubbard would afterward combine Diane (which may have been another name for Babalon) with the then popular term cybernetics (Gk. "steersman") to form "Dianetics", the label Hubbard gave the philosophy and system of mind control which he created by combining his own science fiction concepts with the magick he learned from Jack Parsons as well from as the writings of Parsons' mentor Aleister Crowley. Later, mostly for tax reasons, Dianetics was renamed "Scientology."

August 1946: Hubbard, age 37, marries Betty (Sara Northrup), age 21. Hubbard is still married to his first wife at the time.

October 1946: Parsons, age 32, marries Marjorie Cameron, age 24. Crowley thinks Parsons has gone off the deep end with the Babalon working. Crowley writes Louis T. Culling: "About J.W.P.--all I can say is that I am very sorry--I felt sure that he had fine ideas, but he was led astray firstly by Smith, then he was robbed of his last penny by a confidence man named Hubbard." Sometime during 1946 Crowley suspends Parsons as OTO head.

December 1946: Crowley further writes: "I have no further interest in Jack and his adventures; he is just a weak-minded fool, and must go to the devil in his own way. Requiescat in pace."

1947: Parsons becomes involved in arms for Israel, according to von Karman.

Dec. 1, 1947: Aleister Crowley dies.

1948: Parsons loses his security clearance for doing classified government work, because "of his membership in a religious cult . . . believed to advocate sexual perversion . . . organized at subject's home . . . which had been reported subversive." He also breaks up with Marjorie Cameron. This break-up lasts until late 1949 or early 1950.

Oct. 31, 1948: The events recorded in The Book of the Antichrist begin. He has put away magick for two years, when Babalon calls.

March 1949: Parsons successfully defends himself against the subversion charges in closed court, and the Appeals Board reinstates his security clearance.

1949: Parsons writes The Manifesto of the Antichrist.

September 1950: Parsons loses his job at Hughes Aircraft for being in possession of classified documents, which he was using to persuade the Israeli government to build a jet-propulsion laboratory and manufacturing plant.

January 1952: The Appeals Board again revokes Parsons' security clearance.

July 17, 1952: Parsons, while making preparations for a trip to Mexico, where he will build an explosives factory for the Mexican government (he tells von Karman), is killed by an explosion at his garage laboratory at 1071 South Orange Grove at 5.08 p.m. He is pronounced dead an hour later at Huntington Memorial Hospital. His mother commits suicide after hearing of the death.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:25 pm

morf13 wrote:
FBI Lab Reports: On September 3, 1965, the report from the FBI Laboratory in Washington, DC arrived indicating that the bullets used in the murder were .22 caliber Long or Long Rifle, manufactured by the Federal Cartridge Company of Minneapolis, Minnesota. The cartridge cases found at the murder scene bore sufficient firing pin, extractor and ejector marks to identify them as having been fired from an autoloading pistol made either by the High Standard Manufacturing Company or the Hartford Arms and Equipment Company, which had been purchased by High Standard in 1932.
COURTESY OF: http://www.crestlinecourier-news.com/articles/2004/01/29/news/features/feature1.prt

Compare that to the LHR weapon, in which a JC HIGGINS or HIGH STANDARD .22 was used, along with long rifle cartridges. ALso, compare to Domingos/Edwards twists & lines in the bullets

Below is the model gun I believe was used in the Boles murders. It is a handgun that was built to fire long rounds. This is also the gun possibly thought by police to have been used in the 12/20/68 LHR murders.


I am posting about the Boles Family murders here, only because this thread is about a suspect from San Bernardino area, and the Boles were killed there with a make and model of gun quite possibly used on LHR. I may decide to start a thread on the Boles Family in the "POSSIBLE VICTIMS" thread.

I spoke today with someone who is quite familiar with the Boles case, and although they are not specifically interested in the Zodiac case itself, they believe (not 100% sure) that the Boles weapon ballistics were compared to the Domingos/Edwards weapon ballistics, and there was not a match. I am trying to verify this as a fact.

The Boles family was murdered with no apparent or obvious motive. The killer(s) managed to subdue/control the whole family, maybe as Zodiac controlled the couple at Berryessa, maybe by saying something like "do as I say, and nobody will get hurt"
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PostSubject: The Boles Family: 1965   Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:32 pm

rand wrote:
Morf: I created a Boles Family post a while back. Here's the link: http://zodiackillersite.forummotion.com/all-other-possible-zodiac-victims-f23/the-boles-family-1965-t170.htm

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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:51 pm

I think the Boles murders is a very good find. It definitely bears further investigation.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:26 pm

There is more about the Boles family in the "possible victims" section.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:47 pm

It is interesting to me how many victims in some prominent unsolved murders have ties to high tech, aerospace and/or defense industries.

The Boles father was an aerospace engineer for Hughes Aircraft. Correct?

The father of Valerie Percy was CEO of of a high tech business machine and camera company that made equipment for spy planes. Percy was killed September 18, 1966. A week later the Bricca family was murdered, Jerry Bricca worked for Monsanto Chemical, and the father of Linda Bricca owned a company that did contract work for the Defense Departmer. The bodies of the Bricca family were found on September 27, 1966.

October 30, 1966 Cheri Jo Bates was murdered. Her father worked at a Naval Weapons facility.

I mean, perhaps 2% or less of the population would have worked in these industries? It seems odd that all of these victims would have such ties.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:34 pm

I posted more on the Boles murders over in the "possible victims" section. I wanted to see if some of our Google Earth experts can help us determine the distance of the high school attended by "patricia Hautz" and Zodiac POI, MLZ.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 10:40 pm

Pat Hautz in the 1964 Pacific High Yearbook:

http://www.e-yearbook.com/yearbooks/Pacific_High_School_Pacificana_Yearbook/1964/Page_79.html

Our boy is in the same yearbook, with Zodiac written next to his name (in purple)

So in review, a letter from a Pat Hautz hints at knowing CJB's killer. A kid she goes to school with and lives close to gets accused of being Z, has a signature that fits the Bates had to die letters. If this kid said all the things he's accused of saying no wonder he may have been suspected of killing CJB.




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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 10:53 pm

Please cross out the last name.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 pm

thanks Bentley, This story is plain freaky. It's too Z like! I just don't get this guy NOT being looked at??
(PS AK, I couldn't see the last man. If you can, mannnn you got good eye sight :-)
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 pm

Done. I didn't think anyone could make out a name on that page.

For the rest, you'll have to take my word for it that Zodiac is written in purple. This is just a blowup of the thumbnail, I have seen the page in normal resolution.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 11:37 pm

Thanks Bentley. Just want to be careful.

Unless Morf has a problem, I think it is OK to post the picture (no name) larger and in better resolution.

WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS MAN IS THE ZODIAC. HE HAS BEEN MENTIONED AS A POSSIBLE SUSPECT BY OTHERS. HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE STINE COMPOSITE AND APPEARS TO HAVE A DARKER SKIN TONE AND MUCH DIFFERENT HAIR. WE ARE DISCUSSING HIM IN THE CONTEXT THAT OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED HIM AS A SUSPECT.
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PostSubject: Re: "ZODE" from Pacific High School in San Bernardino   Thu May 20, 2010 11:42 pm

AK Wilks wrote:
Thanks Bentley. Just want to be careful.

Unless Morf has a problem, I think it is OK to post the picture (no name) larger and in better resolution.

WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS MAN IS THE ZODIAC. HE HAS BEEN MENTIONED AS A POSSIBLE SUSPECT BY OTHERS. HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE STINE COMPOSITE AND APPEARS TO HAVE A DARKER SKIN TONE AND MUCH DIFFERENT HAIR. WE ARE DISCUSSING HIM IN THE CONTEXT THAT OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED HIM AS A SUSPECT.

Yes, as long as his name isnt mentioned here anyplace. Good idea regarding the disclaimer:

WE NEITHER ENDORSE NOR DISMISS THIS MAN AS A ZODIAC SUSPECT...OUR POSTS ABOUT HIM ARE STRICTLY BASED OFF THE FACT THAT OTHERS ON THE INTERNET HAVE BROUGHT HIS NAME UP IN THE ZODIAC CASE. ALL ZODIAC SUSPECTS/POI'S MENTIONED ON THIS SITE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL FOUND GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW
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