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PostSubject: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:48 am

Ernestine Terello was murdered in 1972 near AGOURA CA outside of L.A.

She pulled over a short distance from her home due to a flat tire. Police theorize a "good samaritan" pulled up and offered to help her. She was abducted, and driven several miles away, where she was murdered and dumped on a boyscout ranch. She was not robbed, and was wearing several pieces of expensive jewelry when her body was found. Although it was reported that she may have been a sexual assault victim, the cold case Detective I spoke to told me that there was "no evidence of sexual assault in the reports". If this is true, then we have a woman who got a flat tire and a stranger offers to help (like Cindy Lee Mellin). She was abducted and driven away several miles (like Johns). No sign of sexual assault or robbery, makes this a truly motiveless crime, much like the articles from 1967 I discovered about the guy that was using the car trouble tactic to attack women in Southern CA. Here are some articles:


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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:52 am

By the way, look at the logo of the boyscout ranch where her body was found:

"Group Photo with the Circle X Ranch sign" is how the caption reads
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:57 am

Circle X Ranch at Big Horn is a Boy Scout Resident Summer Camp that accommodates 300 Boy Scouts plus leaders for 6-day tent camping, 8 weeks each summer. A complete program is offered that includes more than 50 merit badge courses, 3 aquatics awards, and BSA LIfeguard training. There is an outstanding Project C.O.P.E. program for 13-17 year olds; as well as optional themed overnight campouts: John Wayne Outpost, Lewis and Clark Lake Outpost, Native American Outpost, plus Cycling and Horseback overnight campouts.
Circle X Ranch at Big Horn is a Boy Scout Resident Summer Camp, opened in 1952 as Camp Big Horn.
http://chilang279.com/16_DOWNLOADS/Maps/ForestLawn_Circle-X-Ranch.pdf

Circle X Ranch at Big Horn is a Boy Scout Resident Summer Camp, opened in 1952 as Camp Big Horn. They offer a wide range of Merit Badges and activities. Areas include Ecology/Conservation, Handicrafts, Swimming, Scout Craft, Path finding (First Year Camper Program), Horsemanship, C.O.P.E., Climbing, John Wayne Outpost, Loggers Jamboree outpost, Archery, Shotgun Shooting, and Riffle Shooting to name a few. This facility also operates winter camps and Mountain Man Thunder in November

The FLSR Astronomy Center started out being the observation area for the Astronomy Merit Badge at Circle X Ranch at Big Horn, the Boy Scout summer camp owned and operated by the Los Angeles Area Council of the Boy Scouts of America

http://www.boyscoutsla.org/website/circle_x_ranch/index.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:35 am

That is very intersting about the circle X!

Does make one wonder if the offender picked it for a reason. Maybe a clue relating to the Zodiac symbol.

Reminds me of the Arlis Perry murder, she was killed in a church that had cross inside a circle windows.



Zodiac said he would no longer "announce" his killings, but perhaps he couldn't resist giving clues and hints, like with Bennallack, Lass and maybe these cases.
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:46 am

AK Wilks wrote:
That is very intersting about the circle X!

Does make one wonder if the offender picked it for a reason. Maybe a clue relating to the Zodiac symbol.

Reminds me of the Arlis Perry murder, she was killed in a church that had cross inside a circle windows.



Zodiac said he would no longer "announce" his killings, but perhaps he couldn't resist giving clues and hints, like with Bennallack, Lass and maybe these cases.

I think Solar Pons was looking at a boyscout angle regarding Z
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:48 pm

It's very interesting,they don't know the exact cause of death but are fairly sure she had been molested or raped, we can rule out shooting and stabbing, so perhaps asphyxiation or strangulation, also I believe one of the Santa Rosa victims had been drugged or chemicals used.

If she wasn't raped it is intruiging, but then I always bear in mind it is possible that the Zodiac moved on from shooting or knifing, he may well have tried to rape or molest later on, it would depend upon what he was getting out of it. He obviously got some kind of kick from writing letters, and unless he was killed outright something would have to fill that void, especially with female victims.

The Pythians/eagle scouts angle is interesting, I shall try to dig a little more on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:47 pm

Yes Solar, the news article says that she may have been raped, but the Detective currently handling her case told me there were "NO INDICATIONS OF RAPE IN THE REPORTS"
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:06 pm

"She was fully clothed, but there were signs indicating she was sexually attacked".

One hates to think.

If not a rape or robbery, this guy just wanted to kill her.
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:02 pm

There is some discussion going on in another thread about the meaning of the "circled 8's". I didnt want to hijack that thread, so since I was talking about the CIRCLE X RANCH here already, heres something interesting:
http://www.circle8ranch.net/
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PostSubject: Re: Ernestine Terello   Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:21 pm

Yes this is another proof that someone was doing what Kathleen Johns said happened to her.
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