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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:57 pm

Via a Google Books search, it appears that there are copies of "The Eye and the Finger" at seven Californian Libraries, including Stanford Uni at Palo Alto. Not sure if they are only available to students but I would guess that a visitor could probably read it AT the Uni.

Perhaps worth a phone call ?

http://www.worldcat.org/title/eye-and-the-finger/oclc/1286410
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:36 pm

Bentley to the rescue!

It does indeed say a "mutiliation killing." (Zam and Sandy were right as usual!)

Note it says the detective in the Pimental murder got a "cryptic letter" after the murder. That is very important. I would love to read what it says. Zam, Sandy, Ricardo, other Cal researchers - have any good contacts at Vallejo PD to see what that letter says?

Communication of any kind in a murder case is very rare, let alone a "cryptic" communication. Certainly matches the pattern in Zodiac and Aardsma.


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PostSubject: cryptic letter   Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:57 pm

Wow! It would be great to know more about that letter. I wonder if its ever been disclosed to the public?
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:07 pm

Goes to show that after 40+ years of digging, you never know what will turn up next. Keep up the good work!
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:48 am

Thanks Bently for posting ALL that info for us! Totally appreciate it. I'm digging around more on this end to see if we can tap into any more information. I have a feeling we will, as I have a few maybes to look into. Thanks for EVERYONE's support an team work on this THREAD, it really makes a difference and helps cover all possible aspects to look into.
I think The EYE connection is HUGH. And with all the eyes on the Halloween Card.......... still pondering..........
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:58 pm

AK Wilks wrote:
The match between the hand on the Zodiac Halloween card and the cover of the short story is quite real. May just be a coincidence, but the similarity is real.



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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:01 pm



Above is the image from the cover of the short story book and from the Zodiac Halloween card.

Below is a patch that may have been on a jacket worn by the EAR/ONS.

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:08 pm

Thanks for posting that Zam.

Interesting to get more details. Grisly indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:17 pm

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Thanks for posting that Zam.

Interesting to get more details. Grisly indeed.
I have 3 more things to post in this thread............GRRRRRR the hosting image machineamajig..... LOL*
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:19 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:44 pm

Zam can you post the bottom part of "No struggle seen in murder clues"?
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:52 pm

AK Wilks wrote:
Zam can you post the bottom part of "No struggle seen in murder clues"?

Sorry:( article is cut off. Will look for it next time.
Did you notice to the left of that post, the Gazer ***) The numbers show a little about the horoscope of your sign. Hmmm next time in Vallejo I might tap into that one a little more.
Your Actively Guide to the stars for that day.

Article 2, a few guys where busted for a dice game...kinda funnie news, ahhhh 1971.
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:06 pm

It somehow reminded me of Kelly's (Mary Jane Kelly) gruesomely mutilated body was discovered lying on the bed in the single room where she lived at 13 Miller's Court, off Dorset Street, Spitalfields, at 10:45 a.m. on Friday 9 November 1888. The throat had been severed down to the spine, and the abdomen virtually emptied of its organs. The heart was missing.
I think Zodiac wanted to be Jack. Or worse. I think he wanted to do a similiar murder as Jack had done.
I think Zodiac probably killed people before the letter campaign.
And when the rush he got from killing wasnt as strong as it was from the beginning, he added the element of calling the police/members of the victims family.
So were do a serial killer as famous as Zodiac go after the Stine murder? What would top being the Zodiac?
Probably commiting even worse crimes.
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:39 pm

I found a better copy of the No Struggle Seen article and sent it to Zam. Hope it is good enough to post.
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:45 pm

I wish the image of George and his dog had copied better from the microfiche. From the picture, he looked like a very pleasant man (and his dog was cute too).
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:48 pm

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I wish the image of George and his dog had copied better from the microfiche. From the picture, he looked like a very pleasant man (and his dog was cute too).

My friends father was the post man on that route. He said George was very well liked, and everyone was so shocked. Wonder IF he dog barked when the crime was happening?
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:58 pm

Awesome Tracers copy is better. Let me see if it comes thur on this post. The bottom part says,The only mild evidence of force he added was the fact that the buttons where torn off the victims shirt and left next to the body. Several Criss-Cross slashes also were inflicted on his right upper chest and three lacerations were found on Pimentals body. When found Pimentals' body was clothes only with an undershirt and shirt and his shoes and socks. His trousers were alongside the body and his shirt was under his right shoulder. Mulantax said special agents from the Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation in Sacramento lifted several intact fingerprints at the scene .








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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:13 pm

I just tried to make a larger scan of the article and sent it to Zam
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:24 pm

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I just tried to make a larger scan of the article and sent it to Zam

OK, Thanks Tracers, good team work. tweaked the article post. Larger article, easier to read. Please read the part about the buttons torn off n next to his body.

First clue was the eye, then check out the buttons, and the cross-cross slashes in the above post.

The bottom part says,The only mild evidence of force he added was the fact that the buttons where torn off the victims shirt and left next to the body. Several Criss-Cross slashes also were inflicted on his right upper chest and three lacerations were found on Pimentals body. When found Pimentals' body was clothes only with an undershirt and shirt and his shoes and socks. His trousers were alongside the body and his shirt was under his right shoulder. Mulantax said special agents from the Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation in Sacramento lifted several intact fingerprints at the scene .
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:47 am

This is great stuff, Z gang gals.

Whether or not Pimental was a Z victim, it wouldn't hurt to look into this case - and it IS mighty interesting.

Very strange that little Vallejo would have such a macabre murder so soon after the known Z killings.

Be interesting if we could learn more about the "reports of malicious mischief" Pimental made to the cops in prior months/years.
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PostSubject: Re: Unsolved Murder in Vallejo of George Pimental: Possible Connection to North Cal Murders and/or Zodiac?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:18 pm

Rufus T Firefly wrote:
This is great stuff, Z gang gals.

Whether or not Pimental was a Z victim, it wouldn't hurt to look into this case - and it IS mighty interesting.

Very strange that little Vallejo would have such a macabre murder so soon after the known Z killings.

Be interesting if we could learn more about the "reports of malicious mischief" Pimental made to the cops in prior months/years.

Mischief, well the Z did like to play games..... just thinking out of the box.
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